A number of freight brokers took their turns speaking at an FMCSA public listening session this week. It turns out that some brokers don’t think they should ever have to share what they’re being paid, others that they aren’t currently allowed to share what they’re being paid, and still others that there is already incredible transparency in the third-party logistics (3PL) market.
The public listening session was held on Wednesday, October 28th. It was called to discuss broker transparency. Drivers, carriers, and shippers have been complaining that some brokers have been pocketing huge percentages of the cost of the load.
The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) has received multiple petitions in the last year which would increase the transparency of 3PL transactions. In considering those petitions, FMCSA has asked for public comments in the federal register as well.
Drivers, carriers, shippers, and brokers were among those who spoke at the listening session. Unsurprisingly, the brokers seemed to be the only ones that wanted to keep their earnings private.
According to FreightWaves, brokers claimed that they are routinely asked to sign confidentiality agreements by shippers because they don’t want their competitors to know how much they’re paying for freight. Of course, if true, that would require that brokers not comply with an existing law which requires brokers to share contract information when it is requested by the carrier hauling the load.
As Small Business in Transportation Coalition (SBTC) executive director James Lamb pointed out, brokers seem to be pretending that that regulation “doesn’t already exist, hasn’t been in place for 40 years, isn’t grounded in 70-plus years of congressional and regulatory wisdom dating back to the 1940s.”
“Whether or not the TIA and their members like it or not, transparency is already a rule and that rule has been in place for four decades for a reason,” Lamb said according to Fleetowner.
If you would like to add your voice to the discussion, comment below and fill out a comment on the public register website!
Source: Fleetowner, overdrive, freightwaves
This is exactly why I no longer want to be in this industry because once brokers get away with it then they expand their practices to flood the market with 3pl and other shady practices. It’s sickening how after all these years 3pl continues to get away with taking advantage of drivers!
Brokers need transparency plain and simple!
i believe a solution to this problem would be to state a number of parameters that MUST be on every R/C. if they turn out that they are not as presented, a base rate add-on will be applied, with a grievance filed, to create a record. a system of arbitration, to a board, for particularly egregious omissions. different classifications for different equipment. how to establish base points should only take a couple decades … oh boy, more regs…
can you imagine if a demurrage rate was set nationally, or extra thousand pound add-ons; minimum number and type of securement devices required. extra stop pay minimums.
still would be complaints in some markets but an “arbitration settlement” at the end of the quarter might become a regular thing, but it would clear the air, especially if the brokers have to pay a fee/ fine for the omissions. it might also reduce brokers who have no clue. there will always be newcomers who have problems and complaints but operating without accurate info is difficult.
scumbags. what’s awesome is that it’s not 1980 and brokers are hardly necessary. they’ll end up phasing themselves out, replaced by software and maybe then we’ll actually get the right pick up numbers we need.
You are 100 percent right.
“and maybe then we’ll actually get the right pick up numbers we need.”
Having worked both sides of the steering wheel, I have learned much about what goes on day to day.
I cannot begin to tell you have many times the shipper has sent us the wrong pick up or delivery number. It is more common than snowflakes in Wisconsin. Many times they provide a different number to the guard shack or shipping office than was given to us. Never a night went by that I wasn’t contacting one or more of our shippers to find the number. Remember, the persons asking for the number only know what they are provided, which was from the same office, often states apart that provided the number to me.
I am retired now and don’t miss the confusion that permeates this industry.
yeah? and with software we’d all likely see the same thing. just as you are reading this as i typed it, so will whoever else comes by here.
Yes you are right
you know in todays’ computerized world it is hard to believe that brokers are even necessary. trouble is the larger carriers would always find a way to ‘badmouth’ the little fellas.
Broker has to tell the exactly he took from that load to the driver,carrier, to be transparent what the freight cost is
I am not a broker but I use the brokers quite frequently. I agree that brokers shouldn’t have to divulge what they make per job.
Part of the incentive of being in business for your self is making as much money as you can.
Many people don’t like that. They don’t want to take a risk.
As far as I know., no one is preventing anyone from becoming a broker.
Try it, if you can. Sometimes being in business for yourself it’s not what it is cracked up to be.
Okay you are untitled to your opinion but with that being said you forfeit any complaint you may have on any purchase you want to make since October 30 when you made your statement. Now count how many times you’ve complained about the price on something since October 30 and if there is a time you’re opinion is void.
Broker need to be limited to 3%to 5% and be held on vailation penalty $10000 if they will under pricing the fright because the volume of the fright the moving can’t be that fright broker can hire employees and we as O/O can hire drivers because we can’t afford that with the expense
Thieves. If they were honest and gave a fair rate instead of low balling the rates to see which sucker will bite, we wouldn’t be having these talks
This is what deregulation got you. Everybody is cutting everybody.
Amen, but Thank God I did retire 3 years ago.
So disrespectful
Yessss…. say it louder for the back people! I swear I know a couple of them that their hauling for cheap, I told them quit and work for a damm factory.
It has nothing to do with unregulated immigration. The person previously had it right. Deregulation.
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That’s it you put two truck drivers in a free whorehouse and they would still try to screw each other
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I know few of those you speak of. Those are worse with brokers and cheap freight than any so called American. I used to dispatch few of them and if they didn’t get paid well on every load they sat home. Never went out just to “cover their fuel” …so sit down you got no idea what you’re talking about.
Exactly
Just park it and go home we don’t need u ,thanks for everything,
Brian…true statement.
These brokers don’t understand if for 2 days all the truck drivers decide to go off the road imagine how much money they will loose
Isn’t right. Logistics companies been doing this for years and won’t stop until it’s law. You think truckers are making money. B/S the brokers rack in more!
Do Away with BrokerCompany And Drivers will be Better Off Company and Drivers Can Make Money And Freight Can move faster…
The truth of the matter is if they disclosed what they were actually getting paid, the drivers would all park their trucks. They’re making a fortune and passing mere tuppence down to the drivers, poor mouthing all the while.
I Love Driving Trucks.
I welcome software coming in to faze out the brokers , so us drivers can get what we are due $$$!! We are the ones who sacrifice!!
This is the stupidest idea The trucking industry has thought of in a long time. I pull broker freight about 15% of the time. I give them a rate and they either accept it or not. Get your own customer freight and you won’t need brokers. It’s called the open spot market for a reason…. it’s open to everyone and often the lowest bidder gets it.
I’ve been at it for years! Unfortunately A mega carrier/broker out of Arkansas has all the freight cornered in my state. They pay 50% of the rate they cut to get the freight! Requiring them to put the rates on the rate-con might force honesty. If your not part of the solution, what are you?????
Just like typical a,holes no tell policy,we pay u either haul it or not, sounds,like total bs to me
These brokers are the real criminals. Why would a broker think he or she should make more than the person hauling the load. Every body in every other profession gets paid and the one important profession Trucking everybody cheating them out of their pay. It is not easy being a trucker already. The government needs to regulate the brokers constantly to stop this like the issues in the past with boxers & the promoter when the promoters was taking all the money.
They have no overhead just a fax computer and a phone
I agree a doctor wouldn’t take fifty bucks to see you in a doctor visit He’s going to tell you kick rocks .
brokers do nothing but lie some companies change there name every couple of years because of there deceptive practices, i’ve been doing flatbed for 25 years mostly in new england, seen all the rates vary between brokers by hundreds of dollars for same load all said in done broker agents take 50% of the loads some time more if it’s military. companies like mercer landstar sureway jrc online frieght and many many more that i hauled for are crookes. i know the have large broker get together parties every summer i’ve been told by shippers who get invited, and broker agents that live close buy have very expensive houses boats ect. paid by trucker. thats why they don’t want anyone to know what the load pays to them. i say from the time the load leaves the shipper to the carrier no more than 10 to 15 percent should be taken gov should intervene and make it law.
Let’s look at it logically, in almost all cases these day’s all shippers, and brokers are out to low ball carrier’s wether or not they are a small, or large company. To me not disclosing the amount of money a broker gets for a load is deception. That’s the reason they were the only people at the meeting that had a problem with it. If your being transparent then why have a problem?
If truckers don’t like the rates brokers are offering, don’t accept it, it’s that easy. If truckers don’t like brokers, don’t work with them. The same truckers that are complaining are the same ones who are using brokers in the first place. Don’t take cheap freight if you don’t want it. Typical truckers, blame everyone else for their problems cause they’re not happy. Even if brokers become transparent, they’ll just find something new to complain about.
Freight Rates should be posted on the Rate Conformation sheet right next to the Rate of pay going to the trucking company Regardless. That is the only way it could be Confirmed with the Shipper. You shouldn’t have to Bag for it.
Amen brother. I’ve been saying this all along, because once you ask them for it, you won’t get another load from that broker, or any other. You’ll be black listed.
I’ve been black balled black listed and told they will never load me as,I have gone to better business bureau and gave them shitty reviews and horrible things,they do and just how despicable they are
Freight Rates should be posted on the Rate Conformation sheet right next to the Rate of pay going to the trucking company Regardless. That is the only way it could be Confirmed with the Shipper. You shouldn’t have to Beg for it.
The government knows what they are doing to us, because they themselves is killing drivers with all this stuff have to pay taxes for this taxes for that. I wonder how many op got to get money for their business out of the stimulus and how many was told no or never heard back from the banks, this industry is screwed UP
I just hauled a load for the Army through a broker the freight rate is on the CBL but the broker lied to me and stated he was only making 75 dollars when I received the CBL I had the truth the Broker had indeed lied to me and was making 25% on the load instead of screwing the Army I haules the load but put the broker on a do not haul for list
military loads usually have the rate in there somwheres
Is there any broker working fairly and openly with truckers? We should stop naming the bad ones and give advertising to the real good ones.
If everyone thinks brokering freight is the ‘easiest’ job on the planet where you can just eat cheeto’s with your feet kicked up behind a computer, why aren’t you doing it yourself? If broker’s make SO MUCH $$$$$$$$, what’s holding you back?
P.S. – are you honest with your drivers about how much $$ YOU accepted the brokered load for?
doesnt really matter if they do or dont or if there is a law or not. Stop hauling cheap stuff. So long as there are carriers willing to pull for cheap, cheap will continue to be pushed.
Exactly! We won’t haul it for cheap but some other ones will and that’s when the damm rates go down.
Thank the MEGA CARRIERS for driving down the rates
Just drive for Schneider and,swift knight drive new shit make 400 a week and live in shittu trailer park near the garbage dump
A lot of the brokers are real crooks especially TQL they are the worst along with uber freight who I do not haul for. Transparency is needed, along with fines if caught stealing from drivers. 3strikes lose your broker license.
The best situation in the world is to be a middleman. Don King made big money off of men bashing their brains in.
Brokers really have no skin in the game save for the time invested in making a couple of calls. They are not needed.
I could care less if they tell us or not… the bottom line is…. they are taking a bigger chunk of the profits than the driver when it’s the driver who does all the leg work! They just the middle man behind a desk!!
Exactly! And that’s the BS that needs to STOP!! We are the ones with all the expenses, not them.
Here in SW Florida, I know for a fact how much brokers make, because I have a family member that is a shipper, and I work with him all the time. I help him out, he dose the same, and we both benefit. The brokers make somewhere between %50 to %65 And we all know that they don’t pay more than 1.25 a mile out of there, so you dp the matte, and the excuse is ” There aren’t enough good paying loads going out. I guarantee you that’s not the case. Total BS.
If you don’t like the price, don’t haul it.
Speak for yourself only. Don’t tell the rest how to run their business, but, I’m pretty sure you’re just another scum broker.
👍👍😁😁😁 You tell him Man!
They have made it harder and harder over the years to operate and tons of government red tape to stay compliance for these brokers which are also mega carriers. The brokers would not have a place if the regulators would have created it. Stop making rules against us for ATA preferences. Funny how the law screen about safety and turn around and put non English speakers on the roads.if it was about safety you would want someone who could read the sign.Brokers are putting truckers out of business every day with their games.Truck companies only have job security in the office,the driver are treated like criminals working on the roads,who wants to be apart of that.
How do you read Red, Green or Yellow traffic lights in English. Most of the road signs on the planet are similar. Yes, I’m an immigrant. And there’s no such thing as uncontrolled immigration in USA. You have to be a citizen or a permanent resident of USA in order to obtain a CDL. To get a USA visa a person has to have a diploma from higher educational institution, no college, otherwise denial. There’s so many truckers who chose to drive a truck as their first job in USA exactly because of lack of sufficient language and not because they never finished a high school. My major is computer science engineer and I speak 4 languages, I’m a trucker because I like it. I’m fully independent owner operator and have freedom of choice. It’s a free country, be a free man.
Absolutely awesome Taras. Glad your one of the gentleman who thinks and goes about it properly. You made a career choice. Its tough being from a different culture out here. Computer science, REALLY lol. To much demand in that sector pushed you away. And got tired of saying ” Welcome to customer support” lol. Hope all keeps going well Taras, KEEP TRUCKING sir.
Truckers shouldn’t have to “settle” for non-transparent rates, period. Simple solution example: When you call around for plumbers they give you a quote and you choose who fixes your pipes based on that quote. It should work the same with the shippers. The shippers should sign a confirmation sheet from the broker on the load rate the trucker offers (which a trucker should receive without asking) and then the broker fee deducted from that rate confirmation. And when signing up with brokers their fees should be 100% disclosed in their contracts. Nothing more nothing less. A broker should be transparent middle men. Instead, they are the same as bookies (crooks) adjusting the books as to what “they” are willing to pay the driver.
You owners who keep saying stop hauling cheap freight is the reason they got non English speaking/reading on the road.Your method works for me 90% of the time because I don’t leave home cheap just return boarder line.
While there’s certain people that have been pointed out to be destruction of this industry, it’s not all of them because same said people working for better companies aren’t an issue and they make loads of money doing it right.
The issue is the carriers. You will find pockets of bad drivers in high numbers if the carrier is a POS with bad ISS/CVOR because they never get fired no matter how lazy they are and refuse to check their equipment. They can’t survive like that in a good company, so they are in bad companies or start their own company.
When they start their own company or join another bad one and they tend to have old, junk trucks and trailers with defects and breakdowns. They undercut good carriers because they have no way of meeting the same expectation levels with unreliable equipment. Eventually they get slammed by DOT/MTO for Out of Service junk, are forced to get it fixed and cannot afford to work for the cut-rate they got the contract for.
The work comes back to good carriers, eventually. It fluctuates all the time. I can tell you it doesn’t matter who they are, where they came from or what their first language is – they’re either a bad driver or they’re not and if they are, they work for a bad company that is killing good carriers by charging too little. It’s all the same issue.
You don’t notice english-first speaking drivers who are just as bad or worse because they’re mingling with the rest of the rednecks. 🙂 haha. You only see the small differences and when they’re not like you and they’re a bad driver, too, you spot them easily. The truth is, there are just as many lazy “english” camouflaged in bad companies and bad companies are owned by any and every nationality. You’re either cheap or you’re not; lazy or you’re not. Where you came from is irrelevant. Bad drivers end up in the same bad carriers and that’s when you notice them the most.
Roger that
Brokers are the equivalent of robbery. They are the scum bags of the trucking industry. They’re the ones who are raping the hard working owner operator’s. But it’s ok! One day they’ll all be judged and punished accordingly. I’m not one who like government involvement, but this is ONE subject that I wish they would step in and help the hard working driver. If only they’d be honest and share the fortune they’re making on us.
Simple solution, truckers all just start making the agreed rate paid by the broker known to the shipper. I notice they have that covered in the contract not to disclose the rate paid.
Don’t sign the contract
news flash, only one reason broker doesn’t want shipper to see R/C
Funny! (An I don’t mean “Haha”, I Mean Strange, very strange!) The Brokers themselves are the ONLY One’s who do Not want FULL Transparency! Their are already Owners doing their own “Sales” and bypassing Brokers ! As soon as I get more Equipment, I plan on doing the Same! Just like Dispatchers, I do Not see Brokers being Long in this Industry anymore! They and Dispatchers Alike will be replaced by a computer app on our phones!
Agreed Harley. Your getting away from spot market freight rates,which is equivelent to 50% or less from actual open market freight rates. It takes a salesman to be a qualified owner operator. Alot of folks fly by without proper information or education. Cant wait for updated statistics to come out lol. Averages will be up. KEEP TRUCKING sir
Why does knowing what other people make get you so upset ????
Because as a carrier, I’m responsible for 100% of the legal and financial obligation of transporting the freight, not the broker.
a truck driver and a lawyer, nice
that is it, clear and concise
Its funny all you truckers cry about is the goverment putting their nose in trucking then some brokers out smart you wich isn’t to hard since hey your a trucker and you run to the government for help hopefully this bites you in the butt.
It’s very simple. MANDATE that shippers state the rate(plus any add’l charges)on the BOL.
Then all parties know the real numbers.
The vast majority of the carriers / owner operators have no clue what their fixed costs are . They run up to 38 % of their miles empty , every day, week ,month, and year, using also an illegal dispatch service and yet it is the brokers fault they dont make any money . In the last week we saw a driver bounce from Oklahoma City to Denver 600 miles to go home , another bounced from San Diego to Houston , and still another bounced from Redding To Vista Ca . On top of this you pay OOIDA a fee every month . Ask the president of OOIDA how much he makes ?? They are a union without the perks , think about that one also ,
While it might be true that a broker is required to provide rate info when requested, isn’t it also true that the broker has the right to demand the request be made in person at head office? Who’s going to do that?
The reason they don’t wish to share is because they have a lot to hide. As a past broker myself, you didn’t share what you made or was getting paid on a load. If asked, you lied about it. There are several occasions when a broker will screw both the shipper and the driver at the same time. Tell the shipper availability isn’t there and then upcharge to get it moved, lowball the carrier and say that’s all the shipper will pay. Just one of many tricks used in the daily shenanigans of a broker.
When a broker tells you the shipper doesn’t pay detention? He’s getting paid the detention and pocketing in most cases. Same with fuel surcharges, etc.
After 12yrs, I moved to the other side and was distribution manager for a large company with our own fleet. Although I was contacted by brokers everyday, after I ran out of my own trucks, I used local carriers and only a broker in emergencies. Knowing their tricks and lies helped me save the company over $3 million in 1yr. That’s how bad they screw you.
Absolutely Mr. Mike, i got a story like that also. Brokers charging up charges to my costumer. Came in during pandemic and cut the rates looking for work, then used demand clause to increase rate. My customer came to me and said you are now our primary carrier, no more brokers. Service, reliability, communication. I give sameday or 24hr service on their freight. Brokers couldnt do that
There are VERY FEW HONEST BROKERS,,,,,VERY FEW. I’ve been around for 50 Years, and Truck for a LOT OF THIS SCUM BAGS. My Hat is Off to the Good Honest Truck Brokers of this AWESOME INDUSTRY. 72 years Young and STILL TRUCKING ☮️
You go young man. Hope all keeps going great for you. Help educate these newbies would ya lol.
We generally use a very few brokers- so we have a history with them and have a pretty good idea what money goes where.
Where I keep getting burned is with new -one time- brokers and non-freight fees such as detention. Had one customer who paid out $80/hour in detention. We got $16.34/hour. This sort of thing is not uncommon in my experience.
I would love to become a broker. I would have all my numbers open. My charge 10% no more no less. Problem is I don’t have no direct connections and I live in a truck.
Are you an O/O? How did you start that? THIIIIINK ABOOOUT IIIIT lol. Go for it Mr. John. Work your truck, sell yourself, broker out overflo.
Brokers are trash. Can’t even give you the right pick up number and lie about the times, just so you can be sitting on a load all day. Smh . Then some brokers want 20,30 some even try to take 40 percent of the load. No broker should be getting even close to what a owner operator makes. We take all the risk, stress with breakdown nasty shipper and receivers away from home dealing with bad weather while they chilln on a golf course or at home on a laptop or laying around doing a 3 minute phone call. Smh To me they are a disgrace to trucking and know nothing about trucking.
Just to give yall an idea about how crooked, and dishonest brokers are, I’m gona tell yall about a load I did. It was one of those brokers with a site where you can bid, or just book it with the offer they post. The load was 259 miles, and they were paying 8K, yes 8000. Needles to say I click on it and booked it. What happened is that the agent put the rate that they were getting paid by mistake, but, once you book it it’s a contract, unless they notice it and cancel the load before you pick it up. Lucky me they didn’t notice, and I made the trip of a lifetime I would say. Believe it , or not, it really happened. Can you imagine how much they make?
The difference between a fairytale and a truckers story.
Fairytale starts; once upon a time.
Truckers story; you’re not going to believe this.
David, there is an old saying that goes like this ” I think of people, like I think of myself” and you’re the perfect example for it. Just because you’re full BS that doesn’t mean everyone else is too.
I have a couple of Henry Big Boy Deluxe for sale, numbers 2 & 3.
i don’t understand why anyone would get into these arrangements for the one click load. the only recourse you have is referring back to what they say is involved in the haul. if it is one line, or less, on a load board how can you know the rate class. of course the convenience of one button on your cell phone… describes your business ability.
I just would like to state my displeasure about money grabbing brokers. Greed is the reason for this mess, and you consistently see promotions from people offering classes on how to become a high earning broker. Every one wants to be rich over night of the backs of others, and that is so not fair. The government as well as a lot of drivers has allowed this by deregulation and the lack of union support. We the drivers have zero support, but are held to sometimes I feel unreasonable standards. The brokers are able to hide their share of their earnings but they know exactly how much to steal because they can with no recourse. I have faith in my government and I pray that they will maybe just maybe step in and stop the bleeding of the Driver & broker relationship. Dear FMCSA please listen to us drivers and let us that choose this profession be allowed to make fair earnings without being lied too. To all of my Brokers that are professional & honest; I say thank you. As for you broker’s that are blood sucking thieves remember you reap what you sow. To you unethical brokers have some integrity, morales & most of respect for yourselves.
Thanks, Eric Bell
I dont understand.may be I’m slow. A broker is a business just like any other. He is not part of any business, not the shipper’s or either the carrier’s. Why should he disclose his business information to anyone?? Its his business only. Now if you want to be able to profitably run YOUR business either get you ICC and run your truck or become a broker and broker loads. That would be your business and now you can do as you wish. I drive with my ICC. I dont care what the broker makes. I lnow what I need to make andI don’t run for any dollar something a mile. I’ve never sat out a day for not having a load. Know your costs and business expenses and you wont be running cheap freight! A truck cant run at $1.50 and have a profit margin. Thats for company drivers pay. Enougg said
Because it’s not the “broker’s” business. It’s the “carrier’s” business. The broker works for the carrier, not the other way around. It’s not a “partnership”. The law clearly outlines the responsibilities (and obligations) of each. So, if brokers don’t like the law or the way the system is regulated, they need to be knocked out of business for not complying, just like any of us would be for breaking/ignoring the law. By not disclosing financials to the carriers, brokerages have eliminated the carrier’s ability to find competitive brokers. This not only unfairly keeps carriers beholden to the same handful of brokerages that continue to monopolize the industry (with the help of government money I might add), it is absolutely a violation of the law. Many brokers think they can render this law “null & void” by making new carriers sign a contract, believing that somehow this waves the legal obligation. It doesn’t, and if we had a legitimate judicial system in this country, this bulls**t would have been dealt with already. Finally, yes, if brokers are going to be so greedy that trucks can no longer afford to transport the freight, it puts the supply and logistics of the nation in danger. Any other questions?
ICC means; “Interstate Commerce Commission”, which was abolished years.
Because the broker’s low-ball everyone.
They are scumbags.
All the ones I ever talked to would just lie to you.
Freight brokerages started off as a rare “assistance” function in the industry. Didn’t take long before they weaseled their way into the “can’t do it without them” position, where they’re making so much money, that they blatantly break the law, and just flat out lie to carriers. Think about that for a second; a man/woman who makes their living by being dishonest to several businesses in every single transaction, dozens of times per day. LoL – and now they have us by the throat. Here are the facts. If you’re the average owner operator today, you’re making everyone else more money than you’ll ever make yourself. I turned 41 this year, and just turned in my rig – one year from paying it off. After nearly 20 years on the road and nearly 2 million logged miles, paying my taxes, never missing any payments, and never once being in an at-fault accident, I realized that this country no longer gives a s**t about me or my business. So, if the FMCSA wants my “comment”, here it is:
You cracked down on the drivers and violated darn never every constitutional liberty we have, all in the name of “safety”, but then deregulated everyone else (brokers, shippers, receivers, fuel and insurance companies) and let them suck us dry. You (the FMCSA) can sit back and pretend that you’re somehow a neutral party to all this, but you aren’t. You’re the cause of it. You passed laws without being elected, and until now, have had very little oversight. We upheld our end of the deal, but in the end, you sold us out, just like every other lobbyist-serving politician in DC. I will be homeless before I ever haul another truckload in this toxic, corrupt, dishonest industry again. The FMCSA hasn’t listened to us for decades while they watched us lose our businesses, our homes, and our livelihoods. If we actually believe that they’ve miraculously developed a soul and suddenly give a rat’s a$$ about us now, we’re as dumb as they think we are.
First of all I like thank God for work I do .
Second brokers put up with a lot b.s. get load and post it
Third haggle them .
Fourth it us that is causing this error .
Fighting for a load 10 companies leads too cut throat tactics causes price for said load too haul it too be crumbs on floor for driver .
Sixth go with third and haggle price up not down silly driver include all unseen price in the haul breakdowns fuel deadheads rejected loads ECT . set price too hual it . for example ($10. Per mile ) . and if can swing it make em by you dinner too .
Just say NO to cheap freight and stop cross border trucks from coming into the States. There are plenty of trucks coming in from Canada and Mexico that come over and work in the states all week/month hauling cheap freight since the dollar increases in their country. If those trucks are prevented from entering the states, the US freight market will again flood it self, hence increasing truck demand in the US and therefore will raise the rates if the brokers/customers want their loads covered. Another problem is, there are too many truckers undercutting them self and each other. That’s why the brokers pull the BS they do. Just remember, brokers need truckers more than truckers need brokers. Lastly, the only reason the brokers have any issues disclosing what they are getting paid is to keep us trucker from finding out how much they are ripping us off of nothing else. All this bs about their customers wanting them not to disclose what they are paying is just BS excuse. 9 out of 10 brokers are taking at least 50% margin without the overhead us truckers have. We need this transparency regulation to be implemented and the brokers to be held responsible for ripping the truckers off.
I’ve never had to deal directly with load pimps. That was something “dispatchers” did at the office polishing an office chair with their ass and logged into “Load Pimp.com” all day for back hauls that were lucky to cover fuel and driver cost per mile.
Things are different,now. I don’t do general freight hauling,anymore. Flat deck/float division for the past 2 and a half years “locally”. Sometimes,load info from dispatch lists an hourly rate charge to the customer at $125/hr. That seems like some good dough for regular flat deck work.
One time,I had to collect cash,up front,from a customer that sold a backhoe privately and shipped it on one of our Landoll slider decks/tilt and load decks to a location around 600 miles away. It was nearly $2300 charge,cash,for that move,alone. Still had room for another pick up/delivery going out the same direction. Between those two pics/del’v, that’s some good dough.
“No Slugs or Snakes Allowed”
Unless you own trucks, you shouldn’t be allowed to participate within the trucking industry!
Prior to deregulation, it was called trip-leasing, when you got the load from another trucking company, and you ran under their authority.
While that system wasn’t perfect, at least everyone involved had a vested interest.
A couple more years, and I call it quits!
Broker’s are scum of the earth.
Welcome to the free market, kids! If you don’t like it then leave, stop whining and be happy with what you have, regulation is socialism and socialism ruins countries, and so on, and so on. In Republican America, the brokers are free to not tell you anything. I hope you got what you voted for.
well its time to refuse any load that is paid below 2 $ a mile to driver,
The problem i have is brokers who will not give accurate information about the load when you call with an inquiry, up to and including the wrong freight classification. How can you make an accurate bid based on faulty information, not to mention not being able to haul the load because of securement requirements. for instance hauling a load of baled metal scrap when it turned out to be crushed cars.