Carrying gasoline for generator

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Right now I'm leaning toward the Predator 3500 that will be enough for what I'm doing but I don't like stopping to refill.

    My goal is to have a unit that I have a remote start from inside the truck which they sell for that, that I can just start it and if I sit for 12 hours or 15 hours I don't have to worry about refueling or anything else. I want to start or stop it right from inside of the truck without moving an inch.

    They also sell the kit for that as you probably know that is a regular fuel pump. If it's legal for me to put another tank on the truck I can carry whatever 30 gallons 40 gallons whatever of fuel, then I could let that thing run for days and days if I needed to.
     
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  3. Vampire

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    They are much louder as flood said, but you can quiet it down by boxing the rack and using some sound deadening. The 531A weighs around 125 lbs dry and emits 79DB. My cousin had a couple, but they were ruined by the last storm.
     
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  4. Elroythekid

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    If it's over 8 gallons, no.
     
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  5. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    You cant have over 8 gallons no matter what you do. You also cant have a gravity feed tank. There are fuel cap deals that say they will suck it out of a gas can but I've researched them A LOT, and they do t work well at all.
    Now, this guy makes an extended run set up for various generators that has a vacume operated fuel pump. They get rave reviews from anybody who has one, it needs to be I stalled on the generator.
    Have a look.
    Extended Run Time Fuel Kits Run Your Generator Continuously and Safely
    I have decided to probably ly go for a real apu. A Thermo king, they seem to be the most reliable. I'm looking for a good used one now.
    Having it run off the trucks fuel is what I'm looking for. I also wanted to hang a larger 25gal or so tank on my frame, get one of these kits ⬆️ and you would probably only need to go to the fuel pumps once a week. The 8 gal rule negates that.
     
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  6. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Yes that is the set up I am talking about.
     
  7. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    @Elroythekid

    Can you show me where the regulation is for carrying only eight gallons?

    This is what I found and it does pertain to carrying auxiliary fuel in an auxiliary tank for an auxiliary generator or whatever but it does not mention anything about a maximum number of gallons.


    § 393.67 Liquid fuel tanks.
    (a) Application of the rules in this section. The rules in this section apply to tanks containing or supplying fuel for the operation of commercial motor vehicles or for the operation of auxiliary equipment installed on, or used in connection with commercial motor vehicles.

    (1) A liquid fuel tank manufactured on or after January 1, 1973, and a side-mounted gasoline tank must conform to all rules in this section.

    (2) A diesel fuel tank manufactured before January 1, 1973, and mounted on a bus must conform to the rules in paragraphs (c)(7)(ii) and (d)(2) of this section.

    (3) A diesel fuel tank manufactured before January 1, 1973, and mounted on a vehicle other than a bus must conform to the rules in paragraph (c)(7)(ii) of this section.

    (4) A gasoline tank, other than a side-mounted gasoline tank, manufactured before January 1, 1973, and mounted on a bus must conform to the rules in paragraphs (c) (1) through (10) and (d)(2) of this section.

    (5) A gasoline tank, other than a side-mounted gasoline tank, manufactured before January 1, 1973, and mounted on a vehicle other than a bus must conform to the rules in paragraphs (c) (1) through (10), inclusive, of this section.

    (6) Private motor carrier of passengers. Motor carriers engaged in the private transportation of passengers may continue to operate a commercial motor vehicle which was not subject to this section or 49 CFR 571.301 at the time of its manufacture, provided the fuel tank of such vehicle is maintained to the original manufacturer's standards.

    (7) Motor vehicles that meet the fuel system integrity requirements of 49 CFR 571.301 are exempt from the requirements of this subpart, as they apply to the vehicle's fueling system.

    (b) Definitions. As used in this section -

    (1) The term liquid fuel tank means a fuel tank designed to contain a fuel that is liquid at normal atmospheric pressures and temperatures.

    (2) A side-mounted fuel tank is a liquid fuel tank which -

    (i) If mounted on a truck tractor, extends outboard of the vehicle frame and outside of the plan view outline of the cab; or

    (ii) If mounted on a truck, extends outboard of a line parallel to the longitudinal centerline of the truck and tangent to the outboard side of a front tire in a straight ahead position. In determining whether a fuel tank on a truck or truck tractor is side-mounted, the fill pipe is not considered a part of the tank.

    (c) Construction of liquid fuel tanks -

    (1) Joints. Joints of a fuel tank body must be closed by arc-, gas-, seam-, or spot-welding, by brazing, by silver soldering, or by techniques which provide heat resistance and mechanical securement at least equal to those specifically named. Joints must not be closed solely by crimping or by soldering with a lead-based or other soft solder.

    (2) Fittings. The fuel tank body must have flanges or spuds suitable for the installation of all fittings.

    (3) Threads. The threads of all fittings must be Dryseal American Standard Taper Pipe Thread or Dryseal SAE Short Taper Pipe Thread, specified in Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J476, as contained in the 1971 edition of the “SAE Handbook,” except that straight (nontapered) threads may be used on fittings having integral flanges and using gaskets for sealing. At least four full threads must be in engagement in each fitting.

    (4) Drains and bottom fittings.

    (i) Drains or other bottom fittings must not extend more than three-fourths of an inch below the lowest part of the fuel tank or sump.

    (ii) Drains or other bottom fittings must be protected against damage from impact.

    (iii) If a fuel tank has drains the drain fittings must permit substantially complete drainage of the tank.

    (iv) Drains or other bottom fittings must be installed in a flange or spud designed to accommodate it.

    (5) Fuel withdrawal fittings. Except for diesel fuel tanks, the fittings through which fuel is withdrawn from a fuel tank must be located above the normal level of fuel in the tank when the tank is full.
     
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  8. Elroythekid

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    It's in the haz mat regs. A diesel truck cant have more than 8 goals of gasoline without it being a hazmat load, placards etc. That's the way it was explained to me.
    If I have time later I'll try to look it up.
    I asked at several scales and it's a grey area to some, and completely black and white to others. Over 8 gals, no matter why it's there, is hazmat.
     
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  9. Dave1837

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    Funny how that works isn't it? Yet trucks hold 1-300 gallons of diesel lol
     
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  10. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    i have the 3500 and love it
    Runs my ac for 11-12hr without refilling.
    Yes a added the remote start/stop kit. So ya I can roll over in bed start it and the ac...

    If you get 1 get the 2 year extended warranty.... it's a 100% no questions asked FREE replacement warrenty...
    If it anything goes wrong just drain out the gas and take it in to any harbor freight and walk out with a new one in the box.... takes about 15min.... yes it even covered it when I dropped it off the catwalk and broke the frame....!
    Next I'm having a custom box make to hang it on the frame them getting the extend runtime kit..
     
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  11. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    The difference is the tank and how it's mounted.....
     
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