Halvor Lines, Superior, WI: No longer worth it

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by snowbegone, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    I know,right!!!LMAO:laughing-guffaw:
    They both look like deer trapped in the headlights!!
     
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  3. teams567

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    It's a rigged voting system where management votes for itself, the old crusty spy drivers vote positive and new drivers are basically told 'say good things or else....'

    I say 'spy' because the old timers will follow the new guys around and spy on them, then report what they see. They are also told to tamper with trucks and trailers. For example, a new guy is supposed to pick up a loaded trailer somewhere, the driver manager will send out one of the old crusty spies who will, let air out of a tire or 2, mess with the trailer auto inflation system, make the reefer not work, do something to the lights.

    Then the new guy comes along who may or may not find the problem. If they find it, obviously it has to be fixed making him late. That makes him look bad. If he decides to run with it, he risks an out of service.

    All kinds of games are played at this company. We went through them all. If you really believe it's a 'best fleet' all we can say is heaven help.
     
  4. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    You know this for a fact? Interesting.....
     
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  5. Phantom69

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    Was with halvor for a year. They ran me into the ground and ignored my concerns. Never again.
     
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  6. drh72

    drh72 Light Load Member

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    Where do you come up with this B.S.? Do you know how Best Fleets score companies? How about you just say Halvor sucks instead of coming up with stories.
     
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  7. gentleroger

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    Schneider used to make this list with regularity, until they realized the effort they spent getting on the list wasn't getting them anything. Almost any carrier who wants to spend the effort of getting their drivers to fill out the surveys can get on this list. It's not prestigious. At best it's like listing "homecoming king junior year" on your college application.
     
  8. drh72

    drh72 Light Load Member

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    But driver survey is not what determines who gets in...they dive into HR and total package.
     
  9. gentleroger

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    After being nominated, companies fill out a questionnaire where "After completing the questionnaire once, participating fleets can use their answers in subsequent years to expedite the process." Then "CarriersEdge representatives conduct a follow-up interview to verify and discuss the information provided in the questionnaire. Interviews are conducted over the phone typically require 75-90 minutes to complete." There is no real independent confirmation that the information provided is reality. Take turnover rate. That number can be calculated in a lot of different ways. Do you count everyone who shows up at orientation, or only those who pass the classroom portion, or just the ones who actually get into a truck of their own? When you're talking safety - is it just DOT preventable and CSA score, or is it every accident your safety department deems preventable? With a little bit of effort, any mid level HR rep can sit down with someone from marketing and get the 'right' answers.

    So take a company like Veriha - or as I like to call them "Schneider Jr". They talk a great game and look great on paper, but when push comes to shove they are a mega wanna be. Yet year after year they make the list, despite paying less than Schneider pays Green Bay based drivers, with more expensive health care than Schneider, less home time than Schneider, older average age of equipment than Schneider, etc, etc, etc. So why does Veriha make the list? They make a big push to get drivers to fill out the surveys, particularly their long term drivers. Getting 20% of their drivers to fill out the survey is only 100 drivers, getting 10% of Schneider drivers to fill it out would be 1,000 drivers. Half the percentage, but an order of magnitude larger. Just getting the total number in is easier, but it's also much easier to cherry pick who is filling out the surverys. It's the same reason CSA scores are meaningless - you can't compare megas (3,000+) to large fleets (1,000+), to medium fleets (500), to small fleets (100) to micro fleets (20 or less). For the tin foil hat wearers - how do we know the surveys are being filled out by actual drivers? The company has all the information they need to fake them.

    I seem to remember that Farm2Fleet managed to make the list, just before they started circling the drain. The award is only worth something if the company can get recruits out of it.
     
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  10. drh72

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    I guess I am done arguing, will say look up Safer website DOT# 75750 and that should tell anybody a lot. Anyone with one lick of business sense would know that you can't grow without good leadership, good employees and good customers. You all don't like Halvor and I don't have an issue with that, but to say everything is smoke and mirrors is not a valid argument. Your opinions are valid and I respect that, but they are opinions which don't back the growth. Show me how such a crappy company can grow and I will listen. I should emphasize...show me how a crappy company like Halvor can grow with facts, not opinions. Should also say that my response is not necessarily directed at you gentleroger, just a general response.
     
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  11. jackoboyo

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    I don't know the details of their growth but buying companies and taking on debt can be problematic when a downturn in the economy comes. Look at YRC and yes they are still in business but the union drivers took pay cuts and had retirements reduced.
     
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