Gun control is not the American way!

Discussion in 'Driver Health' started by Moose Holland, Jun 3, 2022.

  1. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Hmmmmmmmm.......what you scared of man? Let's think on this.....how often dies a trucker really go into an "unsavory part of a city?" What you need a gun for? To make your schlong bigger if someone is blocking the fuel island? To satisfy your road rage? Spare me the self defense talk mam. Maybe once upon a time people had guns for self defense. I'm not so sure that's 100 percent true any more. Anyway, if a company has an anti-gun policy so what? They're using they're AMERICAN right. They are free to do so. You're also free to not work for them. Doesn't make either side un-American. If someone doesn't necessarily subscribe to certain attitudes or conservative ways of thinking, I don't understand why that makes them un-American. I think that's just a retarded way to label people or entities.
     
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  3. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    What if a family doesn't subscribe to Christianity? That's become more common in the last 30 years or so. I personally don't subscribe to any organized faith. I don't see why it's important to practice those routines in school. You've got church for all that, as well as Christian schools.
     
  4. chimbotano

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    Is undeniable that we live in a very sick society. Most societies are sick, specifically poor countries, but you don't hear people with guns going to school to shoot and kill children or church goers, it doesn't happen, probably in those poor and sick societies, weapons are not available as we have here in USA. I just hope this killings doesn't happen, to my family or yours.
     
  5. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    the law isn’t there your the average law abiding citizens, it’s there for the criminals.
     
  6. buddyd157

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    i have had training. i can legally buy, own and now carry a gun, albeit it is concealed, which i earned from my local PD, once i qualified.

    but i am retired as well

    i carry every day going about my business, but leave the gun at home when i have to go to any of my doctors, or cross over into the state of Massachusetts as we do not have reciprocity.

    when i was working (as a driver) i did not have a gun, i only got into this sport/hobby, in January of 2020, after being retired for like 3 years or so?

    i LOVE my mini gun collection of about 25 of different types and calibers.

    i LOVE going to the range and target practice for myself and self defense purposes.

    i recently got into reloading my own ammo, with 2 reloading presses.

    but the one thing i never had to worry about, was "being forced" to be defenseless at any employer. no one is "forcing you" to work at any employer.....should truckers be able to be armed with NO consequences..while on the job...??

    that's quite frankly, a very tough call...but, it's also called..LIABILITY.....for YOU and the COMPANY

    if you really want to carry, then i suggest you buy your own rig and be on your own, and of course, have gun-owners/self defense insurance, maybe from the USCCA, or some other carry insurance company.

    for the possible civil lawsuits as well as for attorney's fee's, and criminal attorneys get "mucho dinero" to defend you in criminal cases, which is what truckers WILL face in a shooting, as it is first deemed....MURDER...no matter who said what, or did what.....until it is fully investigated, all the while, you sit in a cell, your truck impounded etc,etc.

    wait till you retire like i did, and go hog wild with the sport, hobby and self defense parts of the gun world.
     
  7. Moose Holland

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    One still might carry a gun against their employer's policy. They are not likely to get caught unless there is a self-defense incident involving the firearm anyway. My own life and limb is more important than a job. Please don't tell me that customers or their security goons go on board the truck you show up in to deliver or pick up loads to comb through your personal belongings as inside your sleeper unit. Whoever demands to search the vehicle or tool box of a plumber who shows up at the house to fix a toilet? Unless you are a law-enforcement officer with a warrant, you do not have my consent to search my truck.
     
  8. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    you do realize that many employers have signs poisted about they have the right to search anything on thier property

    you do realize that many places have such signs as well posted on thier property?

    you're kinda barking a tune up the wrong tree of misinformation.
     
  9. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    I've got some oceanfront property for you too.

    You do realize i'm sure that the 94 AW Ban actually banned nothing? Pre ban guns were still completely legal, along with pre ban hi cap mags.

    The ban, and it's effect on crime are like the article you linked. Complete BS
     
  10. gentleroger

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    "Lies, darned lies, and statistics"

    A more important oversight was the report's use of average deaths per capita instead of a more stable metric. Because of the smaller populations of most European countries, individual events in those countries had statistically oversized influence and warped the results. For example, Norway’s world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015.

    An easy, though arguably insensitive, way to illustrate the shortcomings of this approach is to apply it to the 9/11 attacks, which killed 2,977 people in the United States on a single day in 2001. Running that data through the CRPC formula yields the following statistic: Plane hijackings by terrorists caused an average of 297.7 deaths per year in the U.S. from 2001-2010. This is mathematically accurate, but it gives a badly distorted impression of what actually happened during those ten years.
    Mass Shootings by Country 2022

    When you switch it to a median instead of mean approach you get :
    Typical (Median) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):
    1. United States — 0.058
    2. Albania — 0
    3. Austria — 0
    4. Belgium — 0
    5. Czech Republic — 0
    6. Finland — 0
    7. France — 0
    8. Germany — 0
    9. Italy — 0
    10. Macedonia — 0
    11. Netherlands — 0
    12. Norway — 0
    13. Russia — 0
    14. Serbia — 0
    15. Slovakia — 0
    16. Switzerland — 0
    17. United Kingdom — 0

    When you expand from 1966 to 2012 you'll find that the US had 5% of the world population but over 30% of the mass shootings.
    https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Lankford-Violence-Victims-paper.pdf
     
  11. ZVar

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    Same lies. Only metric that matters is number of shootings vs. population. It really doesn't matter the number of people shot as it was one person doing the shooting.
     
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