What are the worst states for loads for Owner Operators?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Power Meister, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Aaah - before , like, if you gross 200k and run at 50% profit - then owner gets $100k pre tax.

    If owner is driver , like me - $100k through tax structure.

    Paying driver - well - another set of calculations.
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    The 50 % rule was once discussed on Kevin Rutherford show too.
    Before then, I did not pay attention to it but it intrigued me, so I checked it out for myself and there it was.
     
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  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    And what was it?
     
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  5. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Consistently, oscillating at 50% - before I pay myself and before taxes.
     
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  6. Kenworth6969

    Kenworth6969 Road Train Member

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    You can make something, like as much as someone flipping burgers.


    What if got a $200k new truck and have a company driver paying them .70 a mile.
    How do you survive then with $2 and under freight and $6 fuel
     
  7. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I always say if I’m lucky, I keep half of my gross. Seems about right. I’ve had quite a few years that were more. No payments and low maintenance cost. I also worked less. Eventually the piper needs to be paid. An inframe here and a transmission there. It all averages out.
     
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  8. Power Meister

    Power Meister Light Load Member

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    You would only be adding equity to the truck. Even if the truck is new and you dont have high maintenance expenses. And also getting 8 miles per gallon:

    2000 truck payment
    7500 fuel
    600 trailer payment
    1200 insurance
    7000 driver
    1000 plates, ipass, eld, ifta...etc
    1000 maintenance

    -----------------------------------------
    20,300 expenses

    20,000 gross

    Loss: $300/mo.
     
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  9. zodiacflyer

    zodiacflyer Road Train Member

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    If that is your business model with no cash reserves, you deserve to fail. With any decent truck and a fuel surcharge, the fuel cost doesn't even factor in. You can actually make more money the higher fuel goes, as long you average over 6mpg.
     
  10. Power Meister

    Power Meister Light Load Member

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    No you cant. Adding more expense does not increase your profit. Expenses are deducted. You are taxed on profit alone. And Fuel Surcharge can be whatever they decide, not even enough to pay for all the fuel. Besides Fuel Surcharge is on contract loads not the load boards.
     
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  11. Lyle H

    Lyle H Road Train Member

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    I guarantee when fuel was 1.00 a gallon and freight rates were 2.00 a mile I was making a whole lot more than someone flipping burgers.
    And trucks were not 200,000 then either.
     
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