The only difference between the mDrive and iDrive use to be the selector. The Volvo use to have the ball buster at the side of the drivers seat where the Mack was a dash mounted. The AMT Volvo's my company have use a dash selector now.
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when you float you are not pulling the crankshaft to the rear, it may move a bit rearward as the gear train relaxes then when the throttle is reapplied gently in my case pushed forward as there is nothing you can do about the pressure on the load side of the engine. In short whether you use the clutch or float the very same pressure is applied to the thrust. The throttle or gear train wind up determines if it’s a steady force or a snap. You and I both know that no matter how slow that clutch is released there is times vehicle speed and gear speed do not match same result. I say that the thrust bearing argument has more negative from clutch use than not. Again they were designed to be used with a clutch so we’re arguing over a moot point. I am just curious for a further explanation on how floating is hard on thrust washers -
Ok, I see your point and enjoy a informative conversation. I however view it a less stressful in my experience. I'm my perspective just because it feels smooth, and looks smooth it doesn't mean it is. If throttle is above zero the drive train is still loaded. The clutch breaks the load, you make a gear shift under no load. Engine crank is relaxed. The wear I have seen in a unit that the driver properly double clutches have been non existence. When the sliding clutch comes to neutral on mainshaft torque is still applied to mainshaft. Then under torque, even slightly is more than zero and it speed matches next gear. It's the loss of motion, the split second in gear, out of gear, and back in gear.
Guess I'm comparing the two properly done. If we are discussing a heavy handed person, to me that's a completely different story.
But then again, maybe I have looked at this wrong the entire time
In my experience. Is all I have. Also, this I have not experienced in my own equipment. I like being able to hear the detent balls when I shift. I strive for a Cadillac automatic drive. Now am I perfect, absolutely not. I find myself exhausted and get lazy slipping a gear. Or some how there is always a pot hole you hit and mess up the whole program during a gear change.D.Tibbitt, Feedman, Oxbow and 1 other person Thank this. -
I agree the dampener springs are there for a smoother engage. It’s their job. When they are toast that lurch is hard on everything. With wear on front thrust washer it’s clutch related. No free travel in my experience. The back is a normal condition that in my opinion can be more or less determined by usual load, driver etc. I mean a truck in severe duty gets a bottom end more often. A truck that pulls light stuff etc will have less wear in my opinion. I have seen where engines have been rigged to run say a generator off front pulleys with the flywheel turning nothing and the thrust washers are always reversed to accommodate that. I have also seen a transmission pulled in the last 1/2 with bolts on a 6NZ that had blow by immediately noticed when the customer picked it up. It locked up on the way to a friend’s shop to see what happened. Thrust was eat plum up from the constant pressure. Tits, tires, diesel fuel, perfume, and glitter in any or all combinations or 1 by itself is a complex not 1 size fits all situation. Not a jab but Cummins guys gotta move the stick so it seems more troublesome than a CAT. I move my stick at can’t tell it’s moving speed and roll out as well as into the throttle. So in my mind no way it’s in a bind or it wouldn’t do that. Much like even double clutching if your speed gear and RPM doesn’t match it doesn’t want to go a clue that ####s gonna get different if you force it
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And yes, soon as you lose free travel, you're pulling on thrust washers, and not far from slipping the clutch.
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