Changing to Super Singles?

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  1. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    What all is needed to change to Super Singles. Of course I know the threads need to be long enough but not sure on anything else.
     
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  3. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    In my personal opinion, the first thing you need to convert from duals to super singles is a complete misunderstanding of how it works.

    In short, some suit & tie with a pencil & piece of paper said this was a good thing & all the math pro's fell for it & the company board members spent millions of dollars changing them over, only to find out the suit & tie was full of crap.
    Now they are all changing back, but slow enough that they hope no one will notice how foolish they were to believe that idiotic idea.

    I mean...... just my opinion.
     
  4. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If you have duals then you’ll need to get the offset wheels to push them out wider.
     
  5. FLHT

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    What about a blow out in the middle of no where ?
    A lot of vendors do not keep them in stock.
     
  6. roundhouse

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    The big question is WHY you would want to run super singles in the first place .

    and why on earth would you pay money to swap to them ?

    you blow a tire and you’re sitting for hours in a dangerous location , you can’t even drive slow to the next exit .
    Plus when it blows , it usually damages the rim too .

    yes super singles get a quieter of a mile per gallon better fuel milage .
    But it’s not worth the hassle and definitely not worth the cost of converting to them .
     
  7. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    last super single that blowed on trailer was $2300, rim was bent.
    Drive tire that blowed was $1600 plus $400 service call (location middle of nowhere by houston missouri, loves sent a guy from springfield/strafford.)
     
  8. Studebaker Hawk

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    In the 17 years I was hauling new (and used) trailers, super singles were promised to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    As they gained some acceptance in the industry, there were 2 reasons for their use:
    1. Slight weight savings at each wheel end where they were used. 100 lbs. times 8 wheel ends may yield 800 lbs.
    For some applications it might be worth it.
    2. Slight improvement in fuel mileage, maybe 3-5% maximum.

    So certain segments of the industry adopted them with some success.
    Mostly tankers staying within a specific operational area (gasoline tankers tank farm to gasoline station)
    and some other weight sensitive situations. Fuel mileage usually wasn't a factor, the rest of the configuration negated that. Flat beds for instance.
    Note that many of those fleets carry a spare, further diminishing the weight savings advantage.

    But the well known downsides usually caused any savings to evaporate.
    Large fleets, excellent support services, consistent limited geographic area, fine.
    Individual owners/small fleets, no support services, large geographic area, not so much.
     
  9. Opus

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    When mine blew, it took out the airlines too....in a 2 lane construction zone. Good times...good, good times.
     
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  11. Studebaker Hawk

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    Wonder if we can get Goodyear, or Bridgestone, or Michelin to put those pictures on their websites.
    A real sales tool...
     
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