Hey all, new to the forum. Been having a lot of issues with a 12.7 loosing power when it gets above 85 degrees out. bought the truck in August last year, ran it the rest of the summer and fall with no issues. It’s a farm truck so it sat for part of the winter. It had 1 150 gallon fuel tank and I swapped to 2 70 gallon tanks (used but didn’t look bad) ran for a couple weeks hauling manure with no issues, then started hauling silage. Once it got above 85 degrees outside it would loose power, and I could only get 15psi of boost. It would surge back to 30psi under load a few times then just be sluggish only building 15psi and never recover from that unless i would let it sit and idle for half hour or replace filters. Went through several sets of filters and washed tanks thinking it was filters plugging but cut filters open and they weren’t plugged.
My filter on the frame has always been only about 1/4 of the way full when it’s hot, filter on the engine is usually full. I am having new fuel lines made and got new pickup tubes incase I have a leak allowing air in.
anyone have any suggestions? Would a bad fuel or boost sensor cause this? None of this is making sense to me since it’s only doing it when it’s hot outside. Any help is appreciated
12.7 Detroit power loss when hot
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by JbarS22, Aug 14, 2024.
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What year is engine, or ddec model? That is important.
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You might check fuel pressure before and after acting up. Check between the secondary filter (last before head) and head.
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I’d second that suggestion.
It sounds like fuel starvation to me. I replaced all my fuel lines on a 1995 a while back, all those rubber components have a shelf life.
I don’t know how the barometric pressure sensor affects fuel delivery adjusted for elevation, and if a bad sensor leads to lost power, but if your engine is surging, I’m thinking fuel system.Last edited: Aug 14, 2024
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It is 91 model, ddec 2 I believe.
what should I check for? I am replacing the line between the secondary and the head along with the rest of the lines.
Also pulled the sensor off the secondary and looks a lot like a Chevy temp sensor but haven’t found an actual pressure sensor.Rideandrepair, Lane=addict and blairandgretchen Thank this. -
Is the filter on the frame a glass bowl Davco, or a solid filter with a tap on the bottom?Rideandrepair Thanks this.
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Just connect a t-fitting between the filter head and fuel line to the head, and use the third hole on the fitting for a pressure guage. My 2002 DDEC 4 430 hp runs at 75lbs. If the pressure is the same before and after, fuel restriction before the head shouldn't be the problem. I believe you can also run down the road with a diagnostic computer connected to your data port to check fuel pressure.
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And run a cylinder cut out test while you’re at it.Rideandrepair Thanks this.
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I'd start with checking fuel pressure as mentioned. Then bypass all the suction lines, and run a fuel line straight from the fuel pump and drop it in the tank and test drive.
If your problem persists, you know all your suction lines are good. If it's gone, you've narrowed it down.
Diagnose without the thought of "well, that wouldn't be affected by temp"
Just diagnose as normal. A laptop or prolink will help.
My first thoughts,
Boost pressure sensor is very likely a possibility, throttle position sensor also likely.
Both can be monitored while driving with a Pro Link or laptop.
DDEC II did not have the intake air temp sensor.
You don't have fuel heaters do you?Rideandrepair Thanks this. -
Ddecll who will even hook diagnostics to those?
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