Modern AI devices added to trucks Good or Bad

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Powder Joints, Oct 13, 2024.

  1. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    The truck I currently drive for Heartland Express has the Auto / Radar brakes and the adaptive cruise , and bright yellow and Orange Warnings that flash across the Issac's Elog.
    I maybe crazy but calling this nonsense safety items is really stretching the truth.
    I took a run from reno to Portland, and the brakes kept engaging every time it saw a guard rail across the road, which was often.,
    The it night if you happen to hit say 70 mph this bright orange warning comes on the Issac's , Just talkng about distracted driving.
    I am I nutt's or is this stuff getting to the stupid point.
     
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  3. M22 rockcrusher

    M22 rockcrusher Road Train Member

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    I'll go first sounds like it is out of adjustment...but yes it's getting out of control, trucking company's are having to get in bed with the insurance company's to stay in business what they say is what will have to do. More mitigation on trucks. I have one of those trucks and it makes me worse driver sometimes, but I'm just buying my time until retirement.
     
  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    My tanker had all that. Once a month when driving on an empty highway the emergency braking kicked for nothing and would almost cause a wreck. Sometimes the camera saw a shadow as an obstacle. Sometimes the radar saw a guardrail or overhead sign as an obstacle. You shouldn't slam on the brakes in a loaded smooth bore tanker unless you want to roll over.
     
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  5. M22 rockcrusher

    M22 rockcrusher Road Train Member

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    Woosh slammm comes to mind?
     
  6. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Road Train Member

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    Yes that in board collision mitigation is absolutely useless in a commercial vehicle. It's nothing but aggravating. I drove a few Macks with that system, and it hands down made me a worse driver. Just aggravating especially in a major city. Running in the northeast it is impossible to keep a 4 second gap between vehicles, yet the system says it is, so it beeps. Non. Stop.
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    No, it is not good, it makes drivers more lazy and what ends up happening, is the driver pool ends up with more idiots and crap drivers.

    We already have trucks that drive like large cars, they are more comfortable to drive and ride in than many SUVs.
     
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  8. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    With all of these gizmos there are more wrecks and incidents than ever before.
    Watch all the videos, un-freaking believable.
    All they do is increase complacency.
     
  9. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Glad its not just me, I don't think there improvements, The brake slam, The truck I drove at Whole Foods (LiLy) would brake for bridges, mostly in Phoenix...
     
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  10. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Mine when i got it would full panic 100% pressure lock the brakes and would not disengage them until you shut off and restarted the rig. And that was after going to 3 diffrent dealers who insisted it was calibrated correctly and they could not disengage it.

    I cut that #### off my rig after it locked up and nearly caused a wreck over a #### gum wraper. A lot of this so called safety equipment is exactly the reverse and just there to better try and control drivers. #### safety. We want someone from the DoT there with an entire arm up your ### and a gun pressed to your skull before we will be happy seems to be the mentality.
     
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  11. Thrasher28

    Thrasher28 Road Train Member

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    I think it's gotten slightly better over the last few years. Less sudden brakes from shadows. The adaptive cruise is my main peeve. Not always realistic to start passes from 10 truck lengths back and annoying when the truck starts braking for someone slowing down to take an exit ramp at 40mph, 10 seconds ahead.

    Some of the systems do have to be recalibrated, either through the truck menu or by a shop, depending on the system.

    The most absurd thing is a CMS fault in some trucks will disable the traction control, Jake, etc. Lmao. Pretty insane that it's all tied together enough to potentially shut off a Jake brake and TCS of all things.

    But, I have seen enough videos of drivers in the fog or distracted drivers not annihilating 4 wheelers due to the systems automatically braking. That all boils down to driver error, but a fatality prevented is still a fatality prevented. When you factor in the nuclear verdicts resulting, it makes sense why they push it
     
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