New driver, advice needed (MVR)

@Ridgeline said "Don't know who paid for it [CDL], don't give a crap, because it is a waste of money."
You getting hired with 2 reckless/speeding tickets causes everyone that the insurance company insures to pay higher premiums. THAT'S the money Ridgeline is spending, on insurance, not your CDL school. Trumpeting your points on your CDL test is meaningless. How can I prove that? Any company that hires you will force you to ride with a trainer for weeks because they don't know, care, understand what "I have 7 points" means. Every state uses their state procedure. 7 points in your state is not relevant in any other state. Should a perfect score on a test be 100, or 0 if they deduct points? Who knows. Nobody on this forum probably even knows what their equivalent score is on your test because we have years and decades of experience doing the task you think you should get hired to do. I have 28 years, 3 million miles, no accidents, no speeding tickets and thousands of days where some boss or customer is pressuring me to speed or hurry up or skip over this regulation or another.

If you can't control your behavior, and that is why you got speeding tickets, doesn't that confirm you are not ready to move big trucks on public roads? Or, do you think speeding only when your boss wants you to speed is acceptable. You are hot-headed, no experience, can't have a civil conversation in public unless someone is telling you what you want to hear. Santa Clause will be along soon to give you everything you want and new pajamas. Lord save us from these pampered newbies with their sassy attitudes and wholly unrealistic expectations. You haven't worked 1 day in the industry and you are lecturing maybe the most experienced person @Ridgeline on the forum. You can lecture me, I'm just a guy that did the job almost 30 years and has over 20,000 thanks on here trying to help people. I'm sure you are the expert. We should throw away our experience and listen to you, the real know-it-all. Vroom vroom. Are you also under 23 years old? That would be the icing on the cake.

 

Yeah, an industry vet is one that tells you what you want to hear, not someone who, you know, has decades of experience doing what you want to do now. YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE HOW SOMEONE REPLIES TO YOU. You invited yourself into the forum, nobody asked you to come here and decide our rules.

 

That will be a story at the counter. 7 points. Can’t wait to hear it or the responses.

 

Yep I am a know it all, compared to a lot of drivers, I sure am.

I said I don't give a crap who paid for it, but I do care that crap drivers are on the road, not just a truck but a car.

Nope, sorry you need to take my advice and think about it.

There are no simple solutions, this is a very complex industry and highly dangerous and regulated.

I did give a solid suggestion, I gave it because I am tired of reading people like you asking what can they do after they get a CDL, some of them are so heartbroken because they got screwed and I am serious when I said get a lawyer, sue the school.

They have an OBLIGATION TO YOU to prepare you properly to get a job, not just a CDL but a JOB. If you had those tickets going into school, they need to explain to you why it will be hard to impossible to get a job, they should return your money no matter if you get a job or not.

See this is the problem: you don't get what is going on, I'll give that to you. CDL schools are the worst, the FMCSA needs to come down hard on these schools for taking money and leaving students hanging.

Tickets are bad, it is something that I won't trash you on but the fact that the school has let you go through the program without talking to you about first how bad these tickets are and how bad the present employment market is.

Points?

What the f***** are points?

What 7 points?

That's a rhetorical question.

I'll give you a little clue of why I know more than you, and I am not going to tell you some fluff like others; I hire drivers for my company. I have a direct hand in every driver and know the employment market really well. If I tell you this is the worst time to get a job, then it is true - ask anyone here.

I do know what a bad driver is, I fired two of them this morning and hired their replacements in 3 hours. Tomorrow I road test three more, so ****** skippy I know what one is.

True, I didn't say you were a bad driver, I said your employability is very low.

Crap drivers cost everyone money.

Crap drivers are the cause for some of the most idiotic regulations.

The FMCSA and states react to crap drivers.

Just go watch Bonehead Truckers or some other one that showcases the lunacy of the drivers today.

Don't care.

Yeah good for you.

I offered another bit of advice: get a lawyer and get it reduced.

That's right but see you came here, I didn't go to you. It is important that you listen to what people say, don't like it, then maybe ... just maybe there is a message to help you.

No, the moral of the story is this - your actions in life can limit your future.

Thanks for the compliment but I'm not the most experience person here, I think a few others are. I have great respect for many others who have more to offer, I am just jumping in here between phone calls and meetings.

 

Going forward....just so you know....most of the better carriers prefer this:

Slow Ride -- Foghat



-- L

 

they may tell things like they are but come off like self-righteous blow hards.

a little tact goes a long way when giving advice, if you actually want the person to be helped instead of just berating them.

it happens quite often

 

I'm going to chime in on your tickets: 1. Learning from a mistake is good unless you get 2 tickets within a year for the same offense. 2.Choosing a career which involves driving and questioning those who have been at it for decades is good also. 3. Going on a tirade about how they, the experienced wheel holder which include myself, should answer your question is bad.
I only have 2.5 million miles while others here have many more. With those miles comes lots of experience dealing with newbies. Just take the advice and learn from it, but never ever fire back with hashtags. That makes you look small and insignificant. Trucking ain't easy and it's not for all. You have to learn the hard way about what life has in store for you. Nobody will sugar coat stuff for you.