CSA 2010: The data

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rookietrucker, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. Dave 1960

    Dave 1960 Road Train Member

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    I was gonna say a deer hit probably didn't just bust the filament but she beat me to it.

    I would have bet the fender was gone!
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    For real? I had a totally non-preventable accident yesterday wherein an SUV plowed into my fuel tank and rear drive axle area. There were no injuries, no inspection, no citations, accident report says 'No improper actions by driver (me)', but I can still expect points?

    Yes this is nuts, I'm driving along minding my own business, lane control everything, a guy driving an SUV crashing into the side of me at 65 miles per hour that I could not foresee and prevent yet I have to bear the punishment for it??

    OH thank god. That's what I thought. No inspection, the officer didn't want to see my logs nor my medical card. He briefly looked at the truck only. I might be OK phew.

    I'm expecting that drug test, pretty much a given whenever an accident occurs I reckon. My truck is driveable, in fact I drove it 5 miles after the accident to a truck stop where in the post trip inspection I saw the dented rim (primary drive axle outside tandem) and fuel tank is dented too, which I couldn't see (the rim)because I would have had to stand out in live traffic, I made the command decision to put my truck Out of Service just so I could avoid getting busted like you did there. I know you tried to do the right thing getting to the nearest truck stop for repairs, but with this CSA stuff it's like they want us to have the whole truck towed over a burned out bulb.
     
  4. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    Oh yeah some of them are and you'll see more and more of them as these states and cities continue to get more broke than they already are.
     
  5. ladywrongway03

    ladywrongway03 Heavy Load Member

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    A dent in a fuel tank is not a out of service offense.To pay a tow truck,and pay for a drug test is senseless.After I got a inspection and was told no reflective tape on the mudflaps of my tractor that was attached to a trailer at another inspection,and hearing the tx dot guy go on and on about csa,I finally said do you know what my thoughts are about it?F@#% csa Ill stay home with my family and get welfare.
     
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  6. amdriven2liv

    amdriven2liv Bobtail Member

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    From My understanding, if there is an injury involved, there are points. Now, I'm not sure about what you have had happen. Who ever you drive for will be notified if you get any points for this. Please come back if you do get points for this.
     
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  7. ladywrongway03

    ladywrongway03 Heavy Load Member

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    you accumulate points everytime you have a inspection or a warning ticket.My company told me that I am accumulating points.They are going to dispute the deer hit points for headlight and hazard light.For the 2nd inspection the reflective tape on the mudflaps is not a requirement if hooked to a trailer,so that also will be part of the data q
     
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  8. twolane

    twolane Medium Load Member

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    Ladywrongway,,,thanks for that post! I looked up the "reflector on the mudflap brackets thing" and you are right about them being required. It also says that a light can be used instead. (I have a lightbar with a light at each end.) However FMCSA book does show reflective material is required no less than 15" from the ground, and no where can I find where it stipulates hooked to a trailer or not. (I guess I'll get some ref.tape on there just incase) Where does it say it's not required when hooked to a trailer?
    Thx!
     
  9. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    Funny thing about those mudflap reflectors, FMCSA required the reflective material, but mudflaps are not a federal requirement as far as I can tell. Every state however requires mudflaps, and has slightly different requirements for them for permissable height above the ground, distance from tires, etc. And as always, this information is difficult and time consuming to find, but yet "we" are legally responsible for knowing it all.
     
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  10. UturnGirl

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    I picked up a company trailer with 3 lights out and was told to take it 40 miles to get it repaired. I said I would but that I would be very upset if I ended up gettin caught and had CSA2010 points against my CDL. As I understand it, lights out = 6 points.

    Called my company's so-called driver advocate the next day and she said,
    a) ok to have one light out on each side of trailer and..
    b CSA2010 is not yet in effect and may never be.

    Can this possibly be true? I actually feel stupid asking this question.
     
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  11. dieselbear

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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/news...-Program-for-Commercial-Trucks-and-Buses.aspx

    Dec. 13, 2010


    FMCSA Launches New Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA) Program for Commercial Trucks and Buses

    WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) today took a major step toward improving commercial truck and bus safety with the launch of the Compliance Safety Accountability (CSA) program.
    The centerpiece of CSA is the Safety Measurement System (SMS), which will analyze all safety-based violations from inspections and crash data to determine a commercial motor carrier's on-road performance. The new safety program will allow FMCSA to reach more carriers earlier and deploy a range of corrective interventions to address a carrier's specific safety problems.
    "The CSA program will help us more easily identify unsafe commercial truck and bus companies," said U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. "Better data and targeted enforcement will raise the safety bar for commercial carriers and empower them to take action before safety problems occur."
    The program also advances the Obama Administration's open government initiative by providing the public with safety data in a more user-friendly format. This will give consumers a better picture of those carriers that pose a safety risk. CSA was also tested in nine pilot states before the program was launched.
    "We worked closely with our partners in the motor vehicle community to develop this powerful new program," said FMCSA Administrator Anne S. Ferro. "CSA is an important new tool that will help reduce commercial vehicle-related crashes and save lives."
    The SMS uses seven safety improvement categories called BASICs to examine a carrier's on-road performance and potential crash risk. The BASICs are Unsafe Driving, Fatigued Driving (Hours-of-Service), Driver Fitness, Controlled Substances/Alcohol, Vehicle Maintenance, Cargo-Related and Crash Indicator. Under FMCSA's old measurement system, carrier performance was assessed in only four broad categories.
    By looking at a carrier's safety violations in each SMS category, FMCSA and state law enforcement will be better equipped to identify carriers with patterns of high-risk behaviors and apply interventions that provide carriers the information necessary to change unsafe practices early on.
    Safety interventions include early warning letters, targeted roadside inspections and focused compliance reviews that concentrate enforcement resources on specific issues identified by the SMS.
    FMCSA will continue to conduct onsite comprehensive compliance reviews for carriers with safety issues across multiple BASICs. And, where a carrier has not taken the appropriate corrective action, FMCSA will invoke strong civil penalties.
     
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