Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. sweetdaddy915

    sweetdaddy915 Medium Load Member

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    Another thing if the govt doesn't knw where were @ then how will the be able too justify there existence an jobs
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    You seemed to ignore the git-r-dones got caught pulling their strings during an audit and THEY are the reason everybody got stopped more at scales and THEY are the reason the company went to e-logs .
    Just FYI I saw one of our git-r-done's pay stubs and I've more more this year than he has . His harassing dispatch for work all the time gets him the lower rate loads . We're paid percentage .
     
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  4. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I recently read an article about some new regulations concerning day care centers in Colorado. Seem some gems include that the play area must have so many blocks for each child fairly--really is that not self evident?. All ingress and egress points will have monitoring to prevent children from leaving or being absconded-- duh. And stairwells will be lit with either natural or artificial light-- duh.

    These lawmakers get into office and feel them must do something to serve the people. It reminds me of a construction company I once worked for, that when someone got hurt, they investigated and proclaimed that the procedure for doing the task would change--- often times it was the guy who got hurt doing something stupid like overtightening banding strap that broke and cut his hand, well, company says gloves will now be worn for the task lol. Or how bout the guy who cut his leg really bad with the chainsaw, now we had to wear the chaps, donning them for 4 minutes to make 1 2 minute cut. Another guy lost both his arms at the elbow, regulations were now written to change the procedure industry wide, a practice that had been going on since the 1950's just fine all of a sudden needed to be changed?
     
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  5. sweetdaddy915

    sweetdaddy915 Medium Load Member

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    Work smarter not harder if u can't get it done in 14 hrs. Well it ain't the end of the world but it is the mark I try very hard not too cross hay sometimes it doesn't always work even though we gotta have some parameters too stay within it is the micro managing of the fmcsa tht drives me nuttz butt that is my opinion
     
  6. G/MAN

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    One or two incidents is not a valid reason to make up new regulations for an entire industry. From some of the posts, the independent minded truck driver seems to be fading fast. If someone can show me in black and white where spending several thousand dollars will benefit me and make my company more money, then I am all ears. The only thing these EOBR's will do is cause me to spend thousands of dollars to do what i am currently doing for pennies. I still want to see a valid reason why I should spend the money and carry an electronic nanny around with me. I want to see actual numbers where these have been installed in trucks and the drivers have become safer. It should be very easy to do if it will truly make roads safer. I doubt that there has ever been any type of study performed. Someone or a few people decided that they could get rich if they could get the feds to force their competition to install EOBR's in their trucks. Now, they knew that if they told them that it was about commercialism and getting rich, that they would probably not go along with the idea. But, if it was about safety or having a level playing field, then the feds might buy it. I find it funny that a company like US Xpress, Covenant, USA, Maverick and JB Hunt would be concerned about having a LEVEL playing field. That is what one sponsor of the bill's office told me.
     
  7. ECU51

    ECU51 Heavy Load Member

    Excellent post
     
  8. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Not so easy any more. If the auditors really want to know what's going on, all they have to do is get cel phone records and hook up the ECM.

    And, for the purposes of business, yes, they are every bit as good as EOBR. Better, in some respects. You have them on hand and can reference them at your convenience rather than hope the computer system didn't eat your homework and then wait for some geek thousands of miles away to have a few minutes to fax your stuff to you.

    Besides that, until there is probable cause or due process of law, IT'S NONE OF GUV'MINT'S BUSINESS where he is and when he's there.


    By the way. I don't have to quote your entire post. I'm answering what is relevant to me.
     
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  9. virgil tatro

    virgil tatro Medium Load Member

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    ill always be an outlaw as long as there are HOS. I drive when im rested and sleep when im tired...
     
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  10. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    If you think that you need EOBR's and someone to constantly look over your shoulder, then perhaps you do. This may not be the career that you should be doing. There are jobs where you can sit in a cubicle or punch a clock and that is a better fit for some people. One attraction of this business has always been the independence of not having someone look over our shoulder and punching a clock. We plan our trips and are pretty happy with things the way they are now. I have over 4 million miles under my belt and have never had a chargeable accident. I did it without an EOBR or punching a time clock. I get my loads picked up and delivered on time and don't kill myself to do my job. There are others who have done the same thing. Having an EOBR will not prevent you from being involved in an accident. It won't prevent you from talkiing on a cell phone, reading a magazine or typing on a keyboard while driving. All it will do is record your time. I have a ruler and log books and I know how to draw a line. It usually doesn't take more than a minute to draw my line and account for my time. It would be better to not have the hos at all, but since we do I don't mind adding up my time and drawing my lines.
     
  11. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    The man that killed himself and his two sons driving into a bridge had 20 years accident free. But he decided he had to get home.

    The guy in Ky had 10 years, again had to get home.

    The driver in Florida with the school bus was just getting his loads done.

    The guy in Knoxville whom planted his tanker in a bridge was another 20 year OO with no chargeables. At least he only killed himself. He was on his third six hour round in a row.


    The laws are there. People have a choice to follow them or find another profession.It isn't about wanting someone looking over my shoulder. It is I do not trust the majority to share the road with my family.
     
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