Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Lets look at these two.
First the Ky crash. 10 people killed along with the driver of the truck. They still dont know why said truck driver crossed over and ran head on into that van, but are trying to blame it on cell phone use when in fact the last call ended 2 mins before the crash. I find it vary odd that the driver never once tried the steer out of the median nor applied any breaks. That alone leads me to believe he was having some kind of medical condition. Looking at photos taken from the air would support that idea because of the way the truck went into the median.
Now Hester Inc was closed soon after this crash for a number of HOS violations that where found.
Hester was a some what small carrier.

Now to the Fla crash.
Truck rear ends a car and a school bus, kills 7 people. Driver is found to be working way over his HOS. The drivers truck has a Qualcomm. This crash unlike Hester's happen in daylight hours. Also in both driver alcohol or drugs were not detected.
Now after this FMCSA gives CRETE a compliance review that only resulted in a proposed conditional rating. Crete was cited for logbook violations and for not randomly conducting controlled substance testing. The review also revealed a 34 percent rate of logbook falsification.
But unlike Hester, CRETE is a big carrier with well over a 1000 trucks. But because of a consent agreement to the FMCSA, the rating remains satisfactory and thus there still trucking right along.
Is it the CRETE is just to big to fail unlike Hester, or did CRETE's consent agreement contain a few $100 bills for someone in the FMCSA?

 

Just what 'numbers' are you refering to? The data you posted before... showed a decline in accident fatalities directly correlated to decreasing equipment and maintanence violations.

Wanting the data so say something else, doesn't cut it. Yet again, it has NOTHING to do with HOS violations.

 

yea and the ability to run and make alot of money is gone as well.. when it becomse manditory i will b done from the industry.. right now our company is only puttin them in the trks of people who want them.. imagine this... they hardly have any takers.. u are right the days of runnin out law are about gone and all will b left in the industy are the cry babies i cant do that drivers.. well good luck with tht.. will run it like hell till tht day comes tho take care everyone and merry xmas to all.

 

Oh Ms Injun I beg to differ with you,,,try getting out a accident investigation where their is either a fatality or just an injury,,,it will be imcumbent upon you and your carrier to Prove your paper work,that is why they(authority types,LEO,FMCSA,DOT,etc...) will take every opportunity to disprove your paper work(,,,Anything electronic that garners information passively (ECM,Qualcomm,cellphone,PrePass/EZPass,even passive cams at stop lights)

And yes that is me ,,im 48,,and nothing condescending about son,,common term here in the SOUTH,,right up there with "YaLL,

Now seeing that you have corrected me(previously) on my grammar,,and now my speech,,i guess we will have to brush up on my skilz before pull the thread over again
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It should also be noted only the Crete driver faced felony charges even though owners of smaller companies have been convicted involving log book falsification with single fatality accidents .

 

Bull, if there is an accident investigation and the investigators suspect there is an issue. THEY must provide evidence to that fact. They must sopena evidence from cell phones... but can collect times at tolls, Pre-pass ect...

If they think there is enough evidence that they can proceed with... you are allow the refute this evidence in court with a competent attorney.

 

And thus you made my point,,,once your logs(paper) fail the smell test,,when compared to a passive type of recorder then its all academic from there
Examples:
1.EZ Pass/PrePass
2.QualComm
3.AirCard for your laptop
4.Tolls,Paper
5.TimeStamp on BOL
6.Traffic Cam(again passive)
7.GPS,either per company,Insurance,
8.Load Tracking on trailer
9.Fuel Slips
10.Debit Cards
And yes your Cell Phone,,,If its a fatality the Celly is going in as evidence,they only need a supoena to search your records,they can glean all they want from the phone when its evidence at the scene

 

Then your paper logs should not fail the smell test correct? and a good reason not to have company GPS... use prepass... etc etc etc.

but there are ways around all of this too... he he he

 

ask him;http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...3176-penalty-false-log-driving-while-out.html

 

You are making a blanket statement here with this. And your blanket assumption of accident investigation is moot! It is easy to see you have no experience...either as LEO, insurance, or company rep in accident investigation, yet you assume every accident involving a CMV is thoroughly investigated as to the CMV driver and his previous actions leading up to the accident.

In my accident (suicide by big rig)...I had both Quallcomm, E-logs and the company is not officially on the e-log so we use paper log. The two log types were not compared, but the time stamp for the "hard braking" time and the speed at the point of hard braking was obtained by the accident investigators. And since my log, last change of duty status, was over 7 hours previous, with no place to pin point time/location from a fuel or scale receipt, or scale crossing...(done the evening before)...they had little to go on. The log, along with my speed at point of impact, timing from the last light I proceeded through, timing from the location I took a short break (not notated on the log BTW), all verified what I stated in oral testimony at the scene. I was not contacted after the accident investigation...however at the scene, my statements were compared from 3 or 4 officers, and a couple Fire/Rescue officers, that separately "interviewed" me...as in casual conversation...but my story never changed, and considering the stress factors having been in that severe an accident...the consistency of my story is part of the decision process by the investigating officers.

Actually..."son" isn't as light a word as you seem to think it is. The use of "son" is a point of "lesser respect for" the person being addressed. So yes it is condescending...unlike "Y'all"...more like "aren't you a sweet thing" as used in TX, OK, and AR.

*Linguistics is a hobby of mine.*

Please note; this last part of your post is chock full of grammar, speech, and spelling...not to mention punctuation... "irregularities"!

Sorry...irresistible! Just couldn't contain that last one!