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Gut Wraps

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Autocar, Apr 28, 2012.

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  1. Apr 28, 2012 #1
    Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Does no one do these anymore?
    Had a load of phone poles pass me on 35 in OK the other day. They were stacked pyramid and only had straps over the load, plenty of them. But not one single gut wrap and the load was spreading. He had one pole over the rail, on the passenger side and two poles over the rail on the driver side. I tried to get a hold of him, to no avail, of coarse. I would have gladly helped him throw on a couple wrappers, to at least stop the load from spreading any further and possibly pull it back together.
    It may be "old school", but I was taught, if it's round and long, wrap it. It doesn't matter if it is multiple pieces or only one. Pyramid or "strip and strap", especially pyramid, they all get wrapped.
    I do carry both 50 and 75 foot straps that I use for wrapping loads, full encirclement and winched to both sides. If the load requires chains, I hook two or three together and do the wraps.
    I do not rely on the chocks, nailed to the dunnage, to hold the load together. They can and will kick out. They are great, sitting still while loading or unloading, but aren't worth squat going down the road.
     
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  3. Apr 28, 2012 #2
    Allow Me.

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    Correct you are Sir ! And pine 4x4 lumber....a big no-no. Flatbedding, NO WIMPS ALLOWED.
     
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  4. Apr 28, 2012 #3
    Gentlemanfarmer

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    I am new to flat-bedding. Would you mind explaining what gut wrap is and how it is done? I would appreciate the knowledge.
     
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  5. Apr 28, 2012 #4
    haulhand

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    If you are hauling something like pipe that can use chains you take your chain and go under your load then take each end and go over your load and tie each end into the opposite side of the trailer essentially making a loop that you pull tight and cinch a load together. That is a belly wrap with chains. If I have to use straps I like to use two and hook into the trailer then under my load and back to a winch in the same side as my hook do just the opposite for the other side and be sure that it is in the middle with you straps as close together as possible. Remember when you do a belly wrap you want to always pull from the top down so go under your load first.


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  7. Apr 28, 2012 #5
    aiwiron

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    I have done it on slick loads, sometimes with steel deck I do.
     
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  8. Apr 28, 2012 #6
    Katz

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    I've always called it, perhaps incorrectly, "circle wrap" but I think it's the same thing. I do it whenever I get a tall load of pipes and stuff.

    I also do it when you have to have wood blocks between bundles of pipes/rebars for a crane operator to feed chains/straps through upon unloading. Wood blocks can move around without gut wraps, especially when the bundle(s) in the middle are shorter in height than the bundles on outside.
     
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  9. Apr 28, 2012 #7
    Allow Me.

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    You also want to "layer wrap" items such as PVC pipe. If load is 8' high, strap the first 4' then over the top when loading is completed.
     
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  10. Apr 28, 2012 #8
    spacetrucker88

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    we always called it hog tieing it is a shame these guys now a days pay no attention to what is going on.If he would of lost it who would he blame surely not himself. do you think he was a highly skilled professional driving school graduate or maybe better yet a trainer for some outfit?
     
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  11. Apr 28, 2012 #9
    MNdriver

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    oh the memories......

    And people wonder why I tell them you want 24 or more 4"x30' straps as well as 18 or more chains.

    PVC pipe is horrid. Especially with the dunnage and metal strapping the claim to put on it to ship it with.
     
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  12. Apr 28, 2012 #10
    Katz

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    And I was taught that is called belly wrap, and 6' off the deck instead of 8'.
     
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