Knight Transportation.............Can't Do it.....

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  1. Florida Playboy

    Florida Playboy Road Train Member

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    Non sense, I was on track to making over $50k @ my first driving job. Which was at a small ma and pa running reefers out to Cali and back. Stay away from the mega grinders if you want to make money. Downside is you will run very hard, be paid on 1099, and most likely drive old equipment. So pick your poison I guess.


    I'm sorry but I won't sell myself out for cheapo wages. There is no reason why I should. I have experience, clean driving record and no accidents. I do a days work and expect a days pay. $16 an hour straight won't cut it. I was making $19 an hour with overtime after 50 hours five years ago. If all drivers did like me these outfits would have no choice but pay fair wages if their whole fleet would sit.

    I don't want to get hazmat too much BS involved. Nor do I want to haul it. Let alone for $16 an hour.
     
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  3. Professional-Trucker

    Professional-Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    Look guys. On this whole salary thing... im not defending anyone or any company. Bottom line is THIS. 30K -35K as a company driver per year.

    . This wage is a surviving wage and to some a living wage depending on where you live.

    Does it "justify" the type of work we do out here?






    NO.



    Is it the companies fault? No.


    Is it the governments fault? We the people will never know.
     
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  4. Florida Playboy

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    Of course it's the companies fault. Why can some pay $21 an hour with OT while others pay $15 straight time?
     
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  5. Dna Mach

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    30k? I made more than that my first year...at Schneider...in 2002. Really wish you guys would strive for better and put these junk haulers either out of business OR make them pay better. 30k is fine...for a bank teller working 30 hours a week. Good grief people!
     
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  6. Menehune

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    You want the big bucks, like $21, then try local work. Possibly Union work, since they have the employer by the B####. Other then that you must work up the ladder to make the money.

    Today they want to walk in., as a newbee, into the big bucks just starting.
     
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  7. Professional-Trucker

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    I've been out here 4 years doing otr. Never made more than 35k in one year. 3 different companies. Same exact pay.
     
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  8. Fiddle Sticks

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    It is a shame that regulators are strangling the trucker. In your situation, a night driver, I would have this in the new HOS regulation: An Affidavit signed by your company or if you are O/O, notarized, stating that you work nights. In this case, if so, the 34 hour restart would then allow you to count 1am-4pm as time off, but then you would have to include two consecutive 1pm-5pms. Personally, I wish this regulation never happened.

    Well, I give them more than two shots---I give five and three weeks. My father and sister ripped me a new one when I turned down a guy where I interviewed with just after New Year's. He gets back to me this past weekend offering a gig 75 miles one-way from my abode hauling 40k steel coils. I had a commitment from a car-hauler, but the truck I was to drive is in a scrap yard after finding a ditch in Ohio.

    Schneider did seem to be the best of the bottom-feeders, but they installed idle limiters too and low speed governed trucks. I also read that they have nagging safety meetings weekly--unpaid. Also, I am dubious about them giving me long length of hauls, but I have no proof, just my suspicion. Bottom line, it pretty much is Schneider or nothing if all I have to choose from are bottom-feeders.
     
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  9. Fiddle Sticks

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    Joe, I would take $30k/yr six ways to Sunday! It is the $10-13k/yr that Smaggs pointed out that I am apprehensive about. Furthermore, pertaining 'do I really want to do this' [drive a truck], I really do not have much of a choice. As a former white collar worker who is on the wrong side of 40 years of age, all like me can all kiss their former careers goodbye. Every six months is another wave of graduates for an ever shrinking economy willing to work for nil because they have student loans to pay off.

    I used to be a courier the past ten years, but talk about working for less than a welfare recipient--as an O/O also so I am beating up my van, risking tickets from cops and red light cameras, having to work long hours, yet making less money that a welfare recipient.

    The reason I decided about trucking were (1) Schneider, I thought, gave me a 'pre-hire', but in a reality briefing I was told it was a 'pre-screening' well after I paid the $2.4k for school by the way, and (2) if I AM ###### to have to drive for a living, I must do so in a vehicle that just not every laid off Motorola worker can perform, i.e. messenger/courier. Come to Chicago and work the rail yards as an O/O--fellow students at my CDL school said they knew friends pulling down $4-5k+ weekly--gross, of course.


    Thank you for the good luck wishes. I wish there were a forum where newbies could talk to experienced truckers. I would say 'Do not feel bad'! Many industries are in the toilet.

    I probably can count on one hand how many industries which are thriving--Government [never mind they are broke, the spend on anyways], Internet Technology, NFL, Hollywierd, Hip Hop Music. I have seen so many restaurants close down the past six years, to include some Burger Kings and Mc Donalds. Empty office buildings downtown! Boarded up homes in lily white suburbs.
     
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  10. Fiddle Sticks

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    Well, here come my detractors again, I hear them calling, but I continue anyway.

    I will settle for $30k my first year. When I get the 365th calendar day of experience, I either get a company that puts me on pace for $40-45k/yr, or I go O/O. There is a 1997 Peterbuilt on craiggy with rebuilt motor for $17.5k. The guy wants 'serious buyer', so I am not going to attempt to 'make him an offer he can't refuse'. I would not want to do all 48 in a fifteen-year old truck, but I would be glad to do a 500 mile radius from Chicago--and K.C. which is 527 miles or something like that.

    Incidentally, what were the companies you drove for? I shall attempt to avoid them after my year one.



    http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3637156779.html

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  11. Professional-Trucker

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    Look fiddle. My advise to you. Let's get trucking! You sound like a smart guy. My guess is, you'll be one of those successful o/o I see hauling ash down the highway. Talk to these guys all the time. They're a very special breed.

    I know about Schneider too. My friend out of east los angeles drove for them. Had a few complaints but not many. He pulled containers in the intermodal division. Never had empties. But he also regrets leaving them.

    Trucking companies have become, how do I put it...I guess Leveled is the word. Like if they all got together and said "this is going to be the new trucking standard" then everyone got involved. DOT, investors, insurance companies, state and local law enforcement. Everyone got on board with this. Now, the driver will only make so much.

    I've had different types of Trucking jobs.

    Local at $15 per hour 40-50 hours a week. All live, driver unload. Almost got killed by a falling pallet of merchandise while using the lift gate on the truck. Very heavy heavy work. Every single day. Ask the beverage distribution guys.

    Otr. Lease purchase. Ran hard! Trained students at crst. Made $151k gross. Deductions and expenses came out to $132k. My take home for the entire year was $19k. Will never do it again. As an o/o you'll never see home. Not in every case though.

    Even did armored transport for 3 years before I got my cdl. Made $10 per hour. 40 hours a week.

    So my point is that trucking will never be like how it was before in the 70s and 80s back when my grandfather and father trucked. Cost of living keeps going up and the truckers salary keeps on staying behind.

    I stay regional OTR.


    I stay content.

    $35k.

    Btw. Smaggs? Really? The guy drove for one year. He complained about the mechanic going into his truck with dirty shoes and got dirt in his truck . I mean...c'mon. He has been complaining since day one. He always had trouble getting reimbursements. Never asked, never knew that without a purchase order number from your fleet manager, payroll will not reimburse you on anything.

    Apply at your favorite Trucking company, learn the ropes, get your weekly paychecks and enjoy the ride. Simple.

    As smart as you are, you'll do fine. Trucking is cool because everyday is different and your always learning something new.

    Right now, im learning some insider stuff in operations to use to my advantage. Very interesting stuff.

    Good luck. God bless.
     
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