CDL Test question on brakes

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  1. Truck4Fun

    Truck4Fun Bobtail Member

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    Studying for the CDL exam. Came across the below question and answer from a study guide.

    Question: Which of these is NOT a proper time to apply the parking brakes?

    Answer: If the brakes are very hot (e.g. after just coming down a steep grade)

    Parking brakes aren't used when coming down a steep grade. Are they?

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  3. mclass555

    mclass555 Light Load Member

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    that is the right answer. Brakes are brakes, you are over thinking it
     
  4. jbee

    jbee Medium Load Member

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    Why do they call them "Parking Brakes?" Think about it for a minute. Are you moving or parked?
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The brakes on a truck, are compound actuated, with the same actual shoes and drums, or pads and rotors with a disc brake setup supplying the braking force for either braking or parking, so if the brake parts are hot, applying the parking brakes sets those hot parts together.

    Technically, anytime brakes are actuated they are being used, so the answer to your question is yes, they were being used coming down the steep grade.
     
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  6. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Read the answer again. It doesn't say while coming down a steep grade it says after coming down a steep grade.
     
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  7. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    The others posters are correct, and hopefully you now have a better understanding.
    I'll put it another way, just in case you're still unsure.

    You ask.. "Parking brakes aren't used when coming down a steep grade. Are they?"

    No... BUT many of the same brake parts are used for both systems (parking & service), so technically, yes. But read on for an explanation...
    Most of the working/active brake parts, (such as the brake shoes, brake drums, S-cam, and slack adjusters) are the same exact parts in use, whether you are stopped and applying the parking brakes (red/yellow dash valves) OR moving with the service brakes applied (brake pedal). The main parts that get hot are the shoes and drums because of the friction between the shoe and drum, when applied while driving.

    So their point is... don't use the parking brake until the brakes cool a bit. If you stopped and applied the parking brake too soon, you are pressing overly hot brake shoes against an overly hot brake drum. Leaving parking brakes NOT applied will allow a small gap between these parts, for quicker brake cooling.
     
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  8. white wolf

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    First off you should never apply the parking brakes while moving unless it is a dire situation and as far as the brakes going down a grade and being hot well that is more of a circumstance of improper breaking it is called brake fade as a result of riding the brakes and improper enginge retarding and being in the wrong gear
     
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  9. heyns57

    heyns57 Road Train Member

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    I think you are all missing the point. The brake drums expand when hot. Setting the spring brakes with hot drums may cause the drums to crack as they cool off and shrink. The springs may not compress with the cooling drums due to friction at the shoe anchor pins, etc.
     
  10. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    That makes sense.
    To be honest, I had always thought it was to prevent "overcooking" the linings of your shoes by having a red hot brake drum (figuratively, tho they can get RED hot too) tight against/around them.

    But the OP's question was also about confusion over brake parts/systems (parking vs service).
     
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  11. milesandmilesofroad

    milesandmilesofroad Light Load Member

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    This is the area of the CDL test that causes people to fail. Study, study and study again.
     
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