Split sleeper

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Night Ranger, May 8, 2014.

  1. tangerineGT

    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    I only ever use it , if I can stay at the reciver ( say if it takes them a while for breakdown ) if I know going in then I can plan to use it .

    However it messes me up for a day or so after that . Idk why lol
     
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  3. 70s_driver

    70s_driver Medium Load Member

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    Yea the only time I use it is if I end up with a tight schedule (i.e. Long time at shipper/receiver, breakdown, etc) any time I don't have time for a full 10 hr break, Ill use it now and then but you're right, it does screw up your log the rest of the day. I just try to get a full 10 off after I use it. If necessary, Ill get them to set me up on a night pickup so I can do a full 10 off then Ill have it for an emergency backup the next time I need it.
     
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  4. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    8 hours consecutive sleeper berth time is needed to extend your 14. After that you'd have 1 more hour to drive (assuming your 14/70 haven't run out) before you'd have to stop and take the 2 hour portion of your split. Or you could take another 8 hour sleeper break. Or a full 10. As long as the 2nd break is a minimum of 2 hours consecutive sleeper/off duty time it'll reset your 11 and 14 hour clocks to the end of the 8 hour break. There is no maximum number of times you can use splits. You can roll for months using only splits and not full 10's.
     
  5. C.V.E.

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    The 8/2 split is a tool that some drivers find works out well for them. For the most part, I feel its useless. I would say that the absolute most important two things to remember with this are 1) only 8 consecutive hrs in the sleeper extends your 14 hr rule and then you must combine them with 2 more hrs to get your full break. 2) The 8 consecutive hrs only extends your 14 hour day, it does NOT extend your 11 hr limit, so when using this you must keep that in mind. A lot of drivers seem to get confused and think it lets them extend their 11 hrs too but it doesn't. I have talked to drivers who due to their route characteristics or things of that nature the split works well for them. Just be sure you know where you stand as far as your HOS times.
     
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  7. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    i didn't watch the whole thing but did hear him say the first part of the split is required to be 8 hours inthe sleeper, not true, you can start with either the 2 or the 8 first.

    Another thing is, he's right with the graph and all but people need to know what happens if you spent 8 in the sleeper and 45 minutes off duty then 15 minutes on duty see what I mean, when it is not 'clean' as the examples.


    Thinking about making a video like this myself to help people because this split thing is a great tool.
     
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  8. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Done right, the 8/2 split gains you that #@#%! mandatory 30 min break time back......

    I can't stand sitting for 10 hrs when there's miles to be covered. 8 hrs and I'm rearing to go again. But after 8 hrs on the road, a nice sit down dinner or lazy nap while traffic dies down is the cat's meow.....
     
  9. Chewy352

    Chewy352 Road Train Member

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    That would help me alot. I like to take my 10 but sometimes a shipper or receiver detains me and I've got 2 hours off and need to split to make up the time. I'm on elogs so it's easy to remain legal but it would be nice to understand it better. Typically what I do is wake up after 8 hours sb and check my time. If I have enough hours to make my delivery then I roll. If not its back to bed to get my 10.
     
  10. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    OK I went back and watched the whole thing. The guy does explain it pretty well, he uses a different way to calculate it than I do but we'd come up with the same answer. his is A (11 and 14 before the break) and B (11 and 14 remaining after the break), This is about the first time I've seen someone explain the split break in regards to splitting the 14. Most of the time the person explaining will talk only about the 11 but people need to know the 14 is being split too.

    Like I was explaining before if a person dilly dallied around and took 13.5 hours to run 10 hours drive time between their split breaking then come back out expecting 1 hour of drive time, well, there's only 30 minutes against the 14 left to legally drive see. This is why safety managers don't want you using it because even they don't seem to understand it. But it is monumentally easy to figure out.
     
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  11. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    I used it a lot in the world of refrigerated and grocery warehouses. Lots of two hour long loads at shipper with barely enough time to get to consignee the next day with an 8 hour break and no place to park, except at truck stop 30 minutes away. Then another 2-6 hours in the sleeper getting unloaded.

    If it works for the lanes you're hauling, then learn it well and use it to your advantage.
     
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