I think most drivers work most of the time also... turn-over just means they went to a different company not that they quit working altogather.
why do you think the turnover rate is so high??? Well... the lifestyle can be difficult on the family sure... but for the most part I'd say very low wages is the prime culprit followed by flat out being lied to or taken advantage of.
If you get paid by the mile consider this as clocking in???
what would you tell the boss that told you to show up at 6am and when you did he said stand by the time clock for two hours and then punch the clock at eight to start making money... this afternoon you can punch out at 4 but I need you stand by the clock until 8pm (14 hours). this shouldn't be seen as a problem after all I am paying you 15 dollars an hour while you are working... right???
get loaded and get unloaded sounds much nicer and much more vague than stand by the clock at work not punched in or being paid which is what most companies do.
most guys also don't know that when they are told the company pays 30k -65k annually with the average guy making 50 k, that this doesn't apply to them period regardless of how hard they work. You won't be making 50k your first year at a big scam company.
in general companies are predatory... so people run...
whats funny is the dac which follows you.... yeah I can see its merits for a guy that wrecked a truck... but... quit because he was lied to, kept out for 6 weeks and not home on time or with the pay in his pocket he was led to believe would be there???
High Turnover Confusion
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by thestoryteller, Jun 5, 2008.
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Hmmmmmmmmm
You know what StoryTeller?
You think a LOT.
I like that!
Yes I do.
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You forgot WANTS to believe.
Uhhhhhh
I give up.
Is this a trick question.?
I'm thinkin' it's to sell sumthin'?
Shux Howdy!
How many do y'all reckon would even bother to read it before they rush in with eyes wide shut -- and sign on the dotted line?
Wasn't it that circus guy who said there's one born every minute ?
Step right this way!
And who's fault is that? Or close to it.
And who's fault is that?
If the diet doesn't agree with you, why would you want ANOTHER company to pick you up?
Especially when you feel your present company is keepin' you down by sellin' you false information and feedin' you garbage.
Does that compute?
What do they call a person who does the same thing over and over and over again ---
and expects different results?
I forget.
Well, ..... if they're habitual job-hoppers, they'd never reach that level. So maybe it's a good thing they don't get that far. Less disappointment that way.
Of course, there IS a flip-side to that coin.
Things COULD change for the BETTER.
But a habitual job-hopper wouldn't know that either.
Bummers.
But, on the brighter side, that tenured driver would still be driving --- and bringing SOMEthing home to momma and the kids.
OR, that tenured driver could just jump ship, and start at the bottom .......... again.
Decisions
Decisions
What to do
What to do
??
And when the LAST Big truck truckin' company goes outta business -- or relocates to another country -- the problems will get REAL serious.
What's a Big truck truck driver to do?!
And there are some folks, it seems, that have worked for every one of those companies before, or as, they smarten up.
And of course --- there will be some who never do.
Imagine that and go figure.
I've seen their recruiting posters in the truck stops.
SEAT FILLIN' AZZES NEEDED
APPLY HERE AND START MAKIN'
THE B I G BUCKS
(For US)
And who's fault is that?
Well, ..... there's the problem right there. If they continue in circles, .... they'll never get outta the yard.
Might even be charged out of route.
I think the real problem is unrealistic expectations and gullibility --- and jumpin' ship when they don't really know how to swim, ........ yet, ain't tje smartest thang to do.
Ya reckon.
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If your logic worked then the industry would not need thousands of new drivers every month.... they would just be shuffling around.....nope, they go bye-bye.....
Lied to? Taken advantage of? Huh? You can read. It is in the contract. People just skew things to their own way of thinking, only hear what they want to hear..........
e.g. How many newbies come on this site to be told to stay away from the bottom feeder companies? They are given horror stories, details and warned........ yet....... off they go on their merry little way....... because IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM........ yeah, right....... the old adage "you get what you deserve" comes to mind.........
ROFLMAO!!
Awh, sweetie........... OMG....you do realize you are talking to a TEACHER don't you?????
What you just described is EXACTLY what is expected of us!!!!
We are paid from 8am-3pm......... but then, we are expected to have dozens of things done that cannot be done while the students are present.... we need materials prepared, lessons written, supplies orders, confrences attended, grading completed, the list goes on and on and on...........
You are soooooooo barking up the wrong tree on this one buddy!!
They are businesses that are in it for the money........ it is what it is..... learn to use it to your advantage because it is not going to change.
News Flash!!
I actually have NO problem with government services using trucking as a back-to-work program...... I think it is a great idea..... if they can even get 10-20% to stay in the industry then they have done a great job getting those people back into the work world........ I know it must be very hard for those agencies to find a career for some of the people because they really do not have any education or skills...... I am not saying that trucking is easy but it is a trade that an average person could learn in a fairly short amount of time and this makes it an ideal back-to-work avenue........
Again, I do not think the grants are a bad thing..... I just think that they contribute significantly to what people refer to as a "high turnover rate" in this industry.........
This can easily be equated to fast food........ I think it is a great thing that McDonald's hires 16, 17 and 18 year old children....... but because they do they have set themselves up for an extremely high turnover rate....... it is what it is..........
Oh, and by the way........ you want to work your ### off for the worst wages in the world.......... work in fast food!!! I'm surprised every teen in America doesn't beat down the college doors after a few months of that slave labor!
Allowed to believe.... or is determined to believe?
Way too many people in this world are looking for something for nothing.... trucking just appears to be a magnet for them........
Huh? Maybe I am confusing my economics but I thought "recruiters" appeared in fields that have competition......... when there are multiple companies that are vying for the same applicant pool..... then you get recruiters to assist the companies with getting the "pick of the litter" as you might say..........
I'm sorry, but I don't think recruiters are some evil plot, conceived of by the trucking industry, to sucker in drivers............. I probably get shot for this one........ but in reality many of these new drivers should be on their hands and knees thanking these companies for an opportunity to work...... have you seen/met some of these guys out on the road? ..... I mean, com'on........ would ANYONE else hire these guys??
This is obviously a real issue in this industry............ there are way too many poor house stories........
Why would you blame the industry, or companies in general, when a man has done such a pathetic job of taking care of his life and financial affairs that he needs them to bail him out?............ when did trucking companies become a government social service....... I thought they were businesses....
It is just human nature........ if a guy can't be responsible, can't take care of himself or his family, can't make sound financial decisions, and can't accept things the way they are............. he is going to fail at everything he does, everytime he does them........ stop looking for someone or something "outside" to blame and start looking "inside the person" who isn't making it........... if they weren't making it before trucking why on God's earth would anyone expect them to make it when they started driving.......... when did trucking become responsible for saving people from themselves??
Welcome to a free market economy........ there is always someone to take your job if you leave......... duh.......
You win!
First guy to realize that my signature was actually directed at some individuals!!!
Btw......... I still LOVE driving a truck and I am going to find a way to fit it into my life....... -
I thought I would put this here.........
I am currently a teacher and I was a landlord for many years........
When I owned rentals people would often ask me why I couldn't find "good tenants." I had a little something I would tell them...........
When you are talking about finances and responsibility, you can put tenants into categories and grade them just like a teacher....
"A" people own their own homes.
"B" people are saving for a home and will only be tenants for a short time.
"C" people know what they should do but don't seem to have the internal fortitude to do it........ in addition, like any "C" student, they can quickly become a "D" student with only a few poor decisions.
"D" people can't, won't or don't make the decisions necessary to build a solid foundation or life..... they don't even abscribe to being "A" people.... on their best days they want to be "C" people.
"F" people do not take personal responsibility. They blame others for their problems and mistakes and look for the easy way out of everything. They want something for nothing and they believe people who have anything are just "lucky".....(they do not ascribe success to hard work, just pure luck).... they are completely self-centered.
Okay........ back to being a landlord.
I own a house:
- the "A" people are not an option
- if I get "B" people they will be temporary because they will buy their own home soon
- I am now looking for "C" people..... these are the best I can really get
- now realize that "C" people become "D" people on a regular basis but of course they present themselves as "C" people when they apply
- the majority of people who rent are "D" people.... it's just a matter of trying to decide if your place is the best fit for them..... they don't make their own decisions well so you have to do it for them
- it is often difficult to spot "F" people, they have spent their lives pretending to be something they are not and are very good at deception..... they have no problem flat out lying and forging documents.
Now, what was that question you were asking me?
Why is it so hard to find good tenants?
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You are kidding....... right?
You blame the "person in authority" when someone does something stupid?
Have you ever heard of personal responsibility?
I'm not even going to waste my time on this one................
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