help with weight

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  1. realdesertkickin

    realdesertkickin Heavy Load Member

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    if theres a will, theres a way

    [​IMG]700 pound bike, 700 pound girl, no weight on steer tire
     
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  3. Paul Geanta

    Paul Geanta Light Load Member

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    On every single axle (single axles are axles that are far from another - not tandem) in the US you are limited to 20 000 lbs (steer also). What makes the difference on the steer is that you have single tires and you are limited by the total weight they can support. If you read on the tires that weight is marked (should be something like 6300 or more) Multiply that by 2 (because you have 2 steers) and that is the maximum weight you can legally have on the steer axle.

    If you go to Canada however I think they are limited to 12000 lbs on the steer but you can have up to 38 on the tandems .... so adjust your 5-th wheel accordingly.

    Hope it helps
     
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  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    That's a girl on the bike??????????How can you tell?
     
  5. Upright

    Upright Medium Load Member

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    Im dying here
     
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  6. realdesertkickin

    realdesertkickin Heavy Load Member

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  7. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    oh is that it,lol
     
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  8. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Your are incorrect, the limit varies from state to state on a single axle group. Typically a steer axle will be limited to 20,000 pounds but a single drive or trailer axle position will be allowed up to 23,000 pounds without permits (tandem drive/trailer groups can be 36,000). In Pennsylvania and New York, where I do most of my hauling, I am allowed 22,400 pounds on both my single drive axle and steer axle. When I used to have an over the cab carrier on my car hauler I had a 13,800 pound steer axle rating. My heavy wrecker has a 20,000 steer axle and 40,000 tandem drives. Of course, all the axle ratings and laws are meaningless if your tires are not load rated to carry this weight, the DOT inspectors use the lower of three things; combined tire rating, axle rating, or state law.

    Here is a short excerpt from New York Vehicle & Traffic Law section Title 3 Article 10 ss 385
    8. The weight on any one axle of a single vehicle or a combination of
    vehicles, equipped with pneumatic tires, when loaded, shall be not more
    than twenty-two thousand four hundred pounds.
    9. The weight on any two consecutive axles of a single vehicle or a
    combination of vehicles, equipped with pneumatic tires, when loaded, and
    when such axles are spaced less than eight feet from center to center,
    shall be not more than thirty-six thousand pounds, except where axles
    are spaced eight feet or greater, but less than ten feet, the weight on
    those two axles shall not exceed that permitted by paragraph (b) of
    subdivision ten of this section and, in addition, shall not exceed forty
    thousand pounds. Axles to be counted as provided in subdivision five of
    this section.

    So to the OP, don't sweat the 12,700 on your drives unless you are also over the 80,000 gross, most weigh in motion scales and single group scales are not accurate enough for the scale master to bother, nor will they know you don't have heavier tires without actually coming out to inspect you. I have never once had an inspector check my tire ratings and I used to regularly run at 13,500 on my car carrier.
     
  9. supersnackbar

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    If that size of a person was riding with ya' you'd have to ask her to get out before you scaled...bobtail.

    A woman so large, when she goes dancing, the band skips.
     
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  10. Paul Geanta

    Paul Geanta Light Load Member

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    So I was partially
    So I was partially right?! If you can offer me a job where I can learn something I am ready to accept.
     
  11. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Yes Paul, you were, and if you use the 20,000 limit as a guideline you will be legal in all 48 lower states, same with the industry standard for 12k steer, 34k drive and trailer tandems, these weights will keep you out of trouble when running interstate. The size and weight rules can be complicated, especially for companies that run heavy haul, over size, or other non-standard freight.
     
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