Prolonged low rates = time to short trucking stocks?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Put another vote for shorting Swift -- in October the drivers' class action against them for 'short miles' is going forward. Swift could be liable for $500,000,000 Milllllliiiiioooooonnnn dollars (doing my best Dr Evil impression) that they stole from independend contractors.

    Just think if Swift wins, it will only serve to bolden them to steal more from their contractors-- and their stocks would shoot up -- so it is a big gamble unless you could somehow get the judge to tell you his decision before hand lol.
     
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  3. TAfool

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    Did you forget to carry the 1?

    Can't believe it cost that much. I've done lots of shorting and have never had more than a few percent in carry costs. The most expensive was a long EUR/ short AUD cross trade. The Aussie dollar pays a fairly high interest

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  4. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Yeah, it would have been ~0.13% per day. Apparently the rate depends on how readily available the stocks are within scottrade customer accounts and no one liked those particular stocks.

    If I was going to short stocks, I'd use another brokerage...
     
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  5. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Any truck owner willing to work for 90 cpm plus some piddly fsc deserves to be cheated.
     
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  6. TAfool

    TAfool Medium Load Member

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    Shhhh....

    SWFT in the low $15's

    Still hold the view of low $10's

    Shhh...

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  7. VoidedNull

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    According to all other indexes primarily CASS 2015 was better than the previous years except for 2014.
     
  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Swift missed their earnings by 10%, blaming crashes and workers comp claims along with settling a class action lawsuit.

    I don't buy that is the whole reason for that big of a miss though. Their contracts are changing to a lesser paid program and competition is eating them up. They appear to have settled the class action 'short miles' lawsuit for about [edit] 10% [/edit] (1%, that's right, ONE Percent) of what the plaintiffs were seeking.

    All of these excuses appear to me to be a smokescreen of bigger trouble on the Swift horizon. Recommend SELL, SHORT

    Edit== 1% settelment rather than 10% which raises my doubts it has a contributing factor with Swift missing forcasts
     
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  9. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Contract vs spot
     
  10. VoidedNull

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    Spot has been better for me.
     
  11. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Better than last year? Here's what Swift just said on the subject:

     
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