Sleeping at the shipper and reciever

"Aye Captain, it's that Cranky Yankee talking about me again."

 

Sleeping at shipper and receiver has some benefits and obvious drawbacks.
You never know when the Browns will demand to go to the superbowl as regular as you might think you are. Especially can happen with eating fast food road junk. Like others have said cameras are everywhere and you cra&&ing in the bushes is a negative for you and your company. although your company will want you to be at shipper but will fire you for such. Would be an embarrassing ticket as well.
It's widely known if you drive with QUALCOMM that your on duty status will not change if you keep speed at or near less than 2mph? ( somewhere in that vicinity) I have seen it personally but believe this kind of antic only helps keep drivers from having better wages and treatment. If company or driver is caught doing this the driver will be fined and fired. driver assumes all the risks

 

When I was an OTR dock banger I tried to sleep at customers whenever possible. The best were those that asked you to get in the dock so they could start on your load first thing in the morning. Many a time I would wake up when the forklift started loading or unloading.

I stock my truck with food. Far healthier than being tethered to eating fast food. Because of that I don't get the ####s, I stay regular, so taking a #### in a bag has never been something I've had to do. A piss bottle takes care of the rest of my "business" so I'm good with that (which goes in the shower bag to be poured into the toilet and rinsed and cleaned).

I try to shop for groceries or get showers during a 30 minute break. This untether me from having to sleep at truck stops and I get a much better nights sleep anyway, not having to listen to idling trucks all night.

Regarding how much more you can make by maximizing your hours like that, I think you can easily add at least 400-500 miles a week. Add up the coin according to how much you are paid to figure it out. The drivers #####ing and moaning about how they aren't making much and not getting any miles are those that are tethered to truck stops and have a long list of things they "can't" or won't do.

 

It was hard for me with the irregular route OTR always going to new customers and not sure if they allow parking onsite. It is true it is the best scenario and does involve log falsification because you're doing things work related during your 10 or extended 10 in the morning when the customer opens up to save your clocks. What the video guy is explaining is maximum efficiency with your clocks.

When you park 18 miles away from the customer for your 10 then have to start your 14 hour clock to arrive for delivery, the big unknown factor is how long it will take them to load/unload while your 14 is ticking away. If they take too long you have not too many hours left to go get another load which again might take too many hours to load then you have no time to get some miles that day see.

 

Imagine an 08:00 appointment in Edison NJ and taking your 10 in Allentown. That 60 minutes you saved the day before may cost you 75-100 minutes the next morning with traffic. Then factor in not wanting to be late so you tend to start your clock maybe 2 hours earlier than you would have.

Lots of decisions and compromises to be made that affect on-time performance and clock management.

 

Not saying it's what I do but you can carry a small bucket and a 30 pack of 13 gallon kitchen plastic trash bags to pee and poop into. Walmart sells varying sizes of paper sack bag lunch bags that you take your very loosely tied up stinky smelly poop bag and stuff it into the paper sack and carry it into the customer's offices and properly place it in their trash receptacles inside the offices so it is properly disposed of since they will not usually allow drivers to use their restrooms. So the moral of the story is pooping in your truck can potentially translate to a $100,000 a year trucker. Cannot believe there are so many truckers leaving so much money on the table.

 

Thats actually a great example STexan.....

A person(s) days can become "ruined" by that example

Just don't see how this E-Log thing is going to work UNLESS the pay structure for drivers is revamped.....Cause let's face it, You think you have a turnover now........

People (in most cases, VALUE their time,Or they should..I just don't see many ppl having to 'overstrategize' their days, Loose money, Just to succumb to Electronic Logs...At what drivers are currently paid

 

No thanks.

 

I think it's 5mph or a certain distance, but it might be something that can be set individually by companies. One time in training, before I even had my CDL my instructor drove us from the Flying J (i htink?) in Joplin to our shipper at the next exit without starting his clock.

All of that really only matters if you're *that* afraid of the government. Yes, I realize the penalties can be harsh but how often does anyone outside your company look into your logbooks? In the yearish I drove I had it happen once.. Two days after I went over my 11 and 14 hour clocks (#### I35 traffic) My total mileage for the day was probably only 570 miles (not bad in a 58mph truck mostly on back roads...) I pulled into my shipper over hours, loaded, tarped, dropped my trailer, and then bobtailed to the truckstop up the street for a shower and dinner.

Oh, and the nice Nevada high patrol guy didn't say a word about my logs, just my license plate and GPS. I'm lucky, I know.

People really need to have some balls and some dignity.

Anyway, I'm not advocating anyone break the law. You're the captain of your ship, etc. Just don't crap in bags or in the bushes at a customers. If you have to go and theres no bathroom, go find a bathroom.

 

The point is - it is easier to cheat the log book if you are already at the shipper/reciever when loading/unloading.

This is the new way in the age of electronic log for companies telling you how to cheat the system without actually telling you to cheat the system.

If you are sleeping at the shipper/receiver you can log-off duty while the shipper/receiver does their job. The elog has a tolerance in it where you can move the truck at a slow speed for a short distance. It is something like 8mph speed and .5 miles distance. So if you park at the shipper/receiver you can back up to the dock and get unloaded/loaded without tripping the elog. When the load/unload is done you can continue cheating the log until the company plans another load on you. This allows you to have a complete 11/14 hour shift for the company to plan on. This makes work on their end much easier as they have unlimited time now to set you up with another load; no window of operation started.

Although the guy in the video acts like this is something he discovered, this crap has been going on for ages. What is new is in the age of elogs, recruiters, dispatchers, and driver services guys have been trying to 'hint' at running this way to make life easier for them. It is illegal but chances are slim that you or especially them will get caught. It appears as this guy is just repeating what somebody in the office told him.

If you park off site, you are obligated to drive to the shipper/receiver. This will surely start the elog, and time on your 11 and especially 14 will be ticking. Some of these shipper/receiver's will hold a truck better then 8 hours. In that case if you started your clock by parking away from the shipper/receiver you would have less then 6 driving hours for that day to be planned. By the time someone got of there dead office arse and got you another load your driving clock might have run out.