Honest Question

Discussion in 'Mercer' started by Bossman027, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    actually several of them have done that. hard to figure, unless they want the walk away deal. lone mountain has new trucks for 2500 a month, 60 months no residual, with better specs, but you got to have 8500 down. go figure
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    where are you with all that going on?? not at ta baytown i guess
     
  4. CJndaTruck

    CJndaTruck Road Train Member

    3,348
    3,364
    Nov 21, 2014
    Knoxville, TN (area)
    0
    Per the numbers stated during the seminars, we signed on an average number of trucks last year (817 as I recall). However the size of our fleet has since shrank from a peak last year of (don't quote me) 3400 to a current state of 2600. Or some numbers like that.
     
  5. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    So the numbers haven't changed, pretty much the same over a 10 year period. . that proves one theory wrong
     
  6. vangtransport

    vangtransport Heavy Load Member

    861
    2,710
    Apr 14, 2009
    0
    Actually it proves the theory correct! If they peaked at 3,400 or somewhere near that, it would explain why they had trucks sitting for days on end, that's 800 additional trucks at one point in time, pulling from the same freight pool! That actually disproves the theory that people were sitting because don't know how to work the system though.

    To Add: You're math is extremely flawed. If a you're trying to determine if growth is above average over the last 2 years, you don't include the past 2 years in your calculation, because then you have nothing to compare it with. Example: Mercer has been in business for 39 years, can I say that's a growth of around 430 trucks a year? I can but that's not a accurate picture of the last 2 years, or the last 10!!
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2016
    whoopNride and Klleetrucking Thank this.
  7. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    Actually Co was correct in saying don't quote him, it actually peaked at 2600 due to an influx of van drivers, quality. Trucks going to van, at the end of February. The fleet was at 2413 trucks down from. 2477 in January. The fleet has stayed pretty much around the 2400 mark except for the bump to 2600. So Co did hear his jumpers a bit wrong. How I found this out was with one phone call to Louisville today. But further the open deck has stayed pretty much the same, the rise. Was van trucks. Also my math want off at all, what posted was a simple average, taking 10 years, comparing this guys trucks number to truck numbers now. To get an average of about 800 trucks per year hired on. Now an simple average is different than calculating a mean number or a median number. Which was not at all what I posted, I posted a simple average. You would some. Numbers to calculate Otherwise. So in fact the fleet didn't inflate by any huge numbers, if fact has been fairly consistent for quite some time. I might suggest calling and asking before thinking the fleet increased by some huge amount. But again if you want a different number other than a simple average more info needed, I am fairly good at math also, I m also gotten pretty good at helping 5 kids thrust high school trig and calculus even, so I haven't lost practice, numbers I got by the short hairs
     
  8. vangtransport

    vangtransport Heavy Load Member

    861
    2,710
    Apr 14, 2009
    0
    Again, you are not calculating what was discussed accurately, not even close. What was discussed was the past 2 years in a down economy vs the previous couple years. Taking the number of a guy you met that started here 10 years ago, subtracting the current truck #, and dividing by 10, does not give you a number remotely related to the discussion! I know you think you're correct about everything, but in this case you're wrong. I don't need to call anyone and verify, I did my original calculations, the ones you keep insisting are wrong based on info YOU provided. You said your truck# was X, you started in X, and I took those numbers and compared the four years. That's where I came up with the growth %. If you don't understand exactly what I was calculating, then why keep commenting on it.
     
  9. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    That's point,the fleet never even remotely got to that size, the peakwas 2600, at the peak of the quality hiring. What you say occurred never happened. But you state the true numbers don't matter? Lol. I called and got the numbers they have been amazingly similar. Over the last10 years with exception of 08 when the fleet decreased below that threshold and last year when the quality boom occurred, but that bump was was vans, the open deck numbers have stayed eerily much the same give or take a few. So no matter how you figure it , they never was or never has been a huge change in fleet size. Those are facts, no matter whose math is used. But actually overall there is an avi of about 800 trucks leased on, which with fleet being virtually the same 800 people on avi also leave. Now since I called and went straight to the source for these figures, how is what. I say incorrect? The numbers are the numbers, not someone's feeling or what it seems to them
     
  10. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

    6,232
    5,704
    Jan 14, 2012
    flatbed heaven
    0
    Also what you are missing by the numbers you say I provided, is that the fleet did not grow. Just as many left as who leased on, when I leased on in 2011 there was a little over 2350 trucks, end of February 2016 there are 2413. There has been as many left that have come, the fleet actual growth is virtually 0 over 5 years.
     
  11. mtoo

    mtoo Road Train Member

    1,909
    4,310
    Jan 15, 2011
    Retired on bended knee
    0
    When I was in Louisville signing on Jan. 1989. A gray haired old guy comes up to me and says "I don't know why the hell they are putting more trucks on, they don't have enough freight for the trucks they have"

    My point is, don't worry about it. Mercer wants everyone to succeed. This is a fast changing industry right now, Mercer is adapting, they are not trying to screw anyone.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.