14 cent paycheck??

KillingTime · Aug 26, 2016

Because I'm a very musically oriented kinda guy... 'you're another soul to feed to the man machine'...

icsheeple · Aug 26, 2016

Dockworker. said: ↑

So in this company you haven't "earned" your vacation time when your anniversary date comes. (At 8 years,it is two weeks)

Instead,it is "fronted" to you so that they may take it back if you find another job before your next anniversary date.

It sounds like a contractual stipulation to benefit the company.
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And why wouldn't a companies contracts benefit them?

Your whining like you've been robbed. They paid you for a week off, before you contractually earned it.

If it makes you feel better think of it like this. You took an unpaid week off a while ago, and you were paid for your last week a while ago...

Dockworker. · Aug 26, 2016

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spyder7723 said: ↑

"Simply put. No. As i said it's a fairly common practice."

So this practice doesn't benefit the company? Instead if paying me my last paycheck,they kept all but 14 cents. That sounds like it benefitted them.

"[After 1 year you qualify for vacation time, be it 1 week 2 weeks or 6 weeks, whatever, the actual amount doesn't matter for this discussion. But that time isn't actually yours until the 2nd year anniversary.]"

So at 8 years,the anniversary time I had coming to me,should be mine.

"[At that date any time you hadn't used up is usually paid or rolled over to the next year.]"

At Estes,you use your vacation time before your next anniversary,or you lose it.

"[Basically you qualify at the 1 year anniversary date but you don't actually get it until the 2nd year anniversary date.QUOTE]"

I've been getting two weeks for quite a while now. I believe it starts at 5 years in. I've got 8.
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scottied67 · Aug 26, 2016

These are part of the dangers of giving 2 weeks notice. I tell everyone I can, never ever give 2 weeks notice. More bad things can happen than good. The only person looking out for me in this life absolutely and truly is me. People say 'well it's the right thing to do', no the right thing to do is to always protect yourself. Get all your money then quit.

Dockworker. · Aug 26, 2016

Hulld said: ↑

I am an employer and the way it works with my business and any others I know of is vacation time is accrued based on hours worked.
Vacation time is never fronted from my experience.
This also goes for all of our local municipality's.
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Exactly! But apparently there is a thing called "fronted". Even the 18+ year dispatcher who handed me my 14 cent paycheck had never heard of this. I handed him my paycheck stub. He had no answer.

Dockworker. · Aug 26, 2016

scottied67 said: ↑

These are part of the dangers of giving 2 weeks notice. I tell everyone I can, never ever give 2 weeks notice. More bad things can happen than good. The only person looking out for me in this life absolutely and truly is me. People say 'well it's the right thing to do', no the right thing to do is to always protect yourself. Get all your money then quit.
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That all sounds good,but Estes pays you the end of next week for the week you just worked.

...so they've got you either way.

Dockworker. · Aug 26, 2016

icsheeple said: ↑

And why wouldn't a companies contracts benefit them?

Your whining like you've been robbed. They paid you for a week off, before you contractually earned it.

If it makes you feel better think of it like this. You took an unpaid week off a while ago, and you were paid for your last week a while ago...
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There's no "whining" going on here. This thread is simply letting potential and present Estes workers know about this practice so that they are not caught out there like I was.

...and as I mentioned,I still stay in contact with many long-timers there. Text,email.. None of them have heard of this.

Luckily I am not dependent on the full check. If feel sorry for someone who is. Be prepared.

So there's no "whining". ...This reminds me when I was OTR. On the CB everyone was accused of "whining". Then music would play. Then the "I've got no panties on" garbage would start. Then someone would tell a tired driver backing in a hole in a truckstop that it's ok to back up when it wasn't.

Oh I don't miss any of that!

alghazi · Aug 26, 2016

Is Estes a union shop?

Dockworker. · Aug 26, 2016

alghazi said: ↑

Is Estes a union shop?
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No sir,it is not.

spyder7723 · Aug 26, 2016

Dude i didn't say you were whining, i just pointed out that the same deal is common in many industries. And explained how it works. Does it benefit the company? Of course it does. But how many employer/employee contracts don't?

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