ELDS Rate increase

Paid a decent wage? Whatever snowflake... NET this week, $2800 +/- a few shekels... I never left the STATE of MICHIGAN. Started on Sunday night, took Tuesday and Wednesday off... I finished yesterday at 1500 hours... And AGAIN, I never left the state of Michigan... 1277 IFTA miles, you do the math... Oh, and that log book...

 

What he was saying is, the ELD's use the same HOS regulations paper does, it just tracks you more accurately. So, if you are gonna take a hit financially, that means you were getting "creative" on your paper logs...a.k.a. running illegal.

 

Everybody is going to take a hit. That isn't running eld's already. Wether you like it or not. Or disagree. Because you can't realize it. And it has nothing to do with running illegal. Except for those certain times that happen all too often to mess up your perfectly planned day that you all plan every day.

I know 4 companies that run cali mostly. They won't be able to maintain their current operation on elds. Without turning their trucks in to team operations. That's going to be less pay to the drivers. And a lot less sleep.

 

If they "can't maintain their current operation on elds", that means that they are currently running illegal, and will be forced into compliance with the long existing laws.

If you were already running legal, elds just makes things easier lol

The place I am currently at has been eld for a while, and I was glad to get off paper, and yes, there are times I miss the "flexibility" of paper, but every time you flex that log, you risk getting caught.
Oh, and you are breaking the law too lol

The hos rules need to be changed, but that is a separate issue, but the elds isn't going to hurt anyone who runs legal, and will simplify a lot of the paperwork that goes with trucking.

 

They won't be able to maintain because Cali is impossible to work with.

Now if they went to Phoenix instead. That would be doable.

They make 2 trips out and back. Usually one night home. And home for 34 reset. Eld won't allow that luxury. They'll have to leave early Sunday morning. Won't get there one night. And won t be back till Saturday evening. With their 2 trips. Boss will have to hire full time help delivering and picking up also.

 

Screw California, let that whole place fall into the Pacific when the "big one" hits.

 

It's no use snowwy. You should know this by now. The folks on here that use ELD's to keep from having to run hard have the opposite opinion of them that folks like you that like to run hard do.

Babysitters fit in some aspects of trucking, and those drivers love em. I'm happy for them.

But they certainly don't fit every aspect of trucking, and are gonna make it very difficult for a lot of folks.

And, yes, before anybody starts crying, I do understand that it's an HOS problem and not the fault of the ELD.

 

... here we again - the truck driving trucking enforcement cheerleaders

 

I don't run ELDs yet , but I've seen the change on the landstar load board over the past few years .
They used to schedule overnight runs over 700 miles , now maybe 500 max for overnight , all those over that went to teams .
The word must have come from above because the agents didn't do this out of the goodness of their hearts .
There was a period where they would ask you if you were on paper logs in a discrete way but ELD fan boys must have went nuts , no one even wants to know your on paper now .
All that being said , some lanes and runs are going to be severely effected and some not so much

 

Elogs don't "track you more accurately". What they do is 1) start your 14 hour clock once there is a change of duty status, 2) Mark you in violation of 8 hour, 11 hour, 14 hour and 70 hour. What they don't do is accurately reflect your actual duty status. If you stop driving, and should be on duty, not driving, you make the duty status change to reflect what you want it to be. You can just as easily falsify your duty status at that point as you can on paper. 45 minutes at a shipper, and you are working the entire time? Easy, put on line 4 for 15 minutes, and off duty or sleeper for the other 30 minutes. What have you gained? 1, all the time not logged as on duty counting against your 70, and more importantly, buying yourself another 8 hours u til you must take 30 minute break.

Please stop these self-rightous beliefs that on elogs, you guys are as cleaner as snow. They can be falsified, and the megas know how and tell their drivers to do it all the time.