HOS Violation????

There is nothing Unethical about "what I just mentioned." Yard Moves are perfectly acceptable, in the situation that you outlined.

 

You can’t use “yard moves” at a truck stop getting service work done. “Yard moves” are only at your own yard where your company is located or if you own/leased to a large company it can be used to move around their dc. Plus, yard moves are “ON DUTY”.

 

Yard move is still on duty anyway. Why the fight to save 5 minutes of drive time and likely get a log falsification ticket? Just go on-duty, move the truck and if the eld trips to drive what's the big deal?

The only other option is to hopefully not get caught moving it around the truck stop to the shop Off duty. (Very likely will never get caught as long as the driver isn't hauling behind around the truck stop.)

 

Funny how some people will come here and suggest cheating while in other threads they bash paper log users for...CHEATING. The irony is glaring!

 

I certainly didn't mean you per se. Sorry if I gave that impression.

 

I consider a "yard move" anything on private property when my paper log used to show line 4...for example, get to a shipper and check in at the guard shack on line 4, and then I'd stay on line 4 until l finished checking out with the guard shack on my way out, at which point I'd go back to line 3 to get rolling. I use "yard move" to get me from the guard shack to the staging area, staging area to the loading area, loading area to the securement area, and the securement area back to the guard shack. It's all line 4 time, and avoids having 5 blocks of a minute or two separated with varying length blocks of time on line 4. Also prevents a good chunk of my drive time from being eaten up when I forget to change my duty status back to "on duty" from driving. Sure, it's only 5-7 minutes each time it happens...times 4 or 5 times during the loading process and that's 30 or so minutes out of your 11 that is gone in an uncorrectable manner. So, I set it to "yard moves" when I get to the guard shack, and stay there until I get back to the guard shack...especially on days where I know my drive time is already going to be 9-10 hours.

In the OP's situation, I would've used PC, as that allows the truck to be moved while "off duty".

 

Yard Move is just Line 4 time. Don't let the words "yard move" confuse you like they are only meant for being at a customer. It was just an easy way to explain in the regulations how we would move around large distribution centers 'driving' while our clocks were expired. But it works at the truck stop shop as well. Or any other non public road surface.