Downshifting and braking at the same time, proper technique?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by FarmTrucking4020, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Eowyn

    Eowyn Medium Load Member

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    I’m curious to know where you are at? Not all ramps are the same what if you’re coming up to a 25 mph ramp and loaded?
    Stopping in 6 isn’t really a good idea either. Things happens but in training especially if you forget to bring it down you’re going to stall taking off.
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Where do you guys get this?

    I've never seen a law that says this.
     
  4. 201

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    I never thought I'd hear someone asking this. Heel and toe is a natural for downshifting and braking. Remember them old cornbinders that had that kind of pigeon toe brake pedal? Just for that purpose.
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  5. kamikami

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    the way I down shift is 10 down to 8, down to 7 (if i have time) and then ride 8th/7th till i'm close to where i'm stopping at, then put it into neutral and as you come close to a complete stop if you gently rub up against 2nd or 3rd gear it will slide in as you hit like 3 or 4 mph so you aren't stopping the truck in neutral.
     
  6. Eowyn

    Eowyn Medium Load Member

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    I’ve never seen it written. I’ve heard it, I don’t remember from whom, but there’s a memory of someone saying it. I’ll coast occasionally I don’t see a problem with it for short distances at slow speeds.
     
  7. Broke_and_Hungry

    Broke_and_Hungry Light Load Member

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    It is not a driving law, but rather, an automatic failure condition during a CDL test, ranks right up there with cannot stall.
     
  8. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    As long as you’re not the truck driver who arrives 100 feet from the stopping point at or very near terminal velocity, technique between foot braking and downshifting should not be too critical. Skipping 1 to 2 gears in the downshift routine makes things much simpler, if combined with sensible approach speeds This will take a little learning time to become comfortable doing.
     
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  9. FryDaddy

    FryDaddy Light Load Member

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    In Arizona, the examiners look for this. If you are coasting in neutral for the length of the truck, it is considered out of control and you will get some points during your road test.
    Here is another TTR post from a guy who failed his CDL road test due to coasting
    It is just wrong. Passed the test, but no CDL
     
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  10. Pumpkin Oval Head

    Pumpkin Oval Head Road Train Member

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    I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for coasting more than a truck length. The only time that rule is enforced is when you are taking your cdl driving test.

    When I hauled grain on rural roads, I taught myself to float gears, so I drove with one foot on the throttle and one foot on the brake. No engine brake, so very little braking from engine. I only used the clutch at stop lights. At stop signs with no traffic, I would roll through in 1st or 2nd gear loaded.

    I feel this method is safer than trying to control two pedals with one foot....it just doesnt work for me.

    Rolling down a short down hill to a stop sign, I maintain control with the brakes.

    On a long hill, I maintain control with the gear.
     
  11. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Illinois Compiled Statutes 625 ILCS 5/11-1410 – Coasting prohibited
    (a) The driver of any motor vehicle when traveling upon a down grade shall not coast with the gears or transmission of such vehicle in neutral.
    (b) The driver of a truck or bus when traveling upon a down grade shall not coast with the clutch disengaged.

    Most states have similar laws on the books. Granted, this specifically refers to the use of Georgia Overdrive, not so much to knocking it out of gear as you're braking...but if the ramp is down hill, you'd be hard-pressed to argue that it wouldn't apply.
     
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