I was wrong. E-logs save lives

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by rank, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    HOS is only part of them problem.

    See, if you stayed on elogs and went back to the old 14/10, nothing would change. If they went back to paper, nothing would change. If they allowed drivers the freedom to pick their own HOS plan, nothing would change. Not now. The problems this industry is facing, it would continue to face regardless of anything anyone does about the trucks or the HOS or elogs.

    Tell them why, Mr @Ridgeline ...you sing the same song every time these discussions come up.

    They are 1. Trying to stupidproof trucks so that can 2. Hire Stupid people so that they don’t have to pay them and 3. Use the HOS to make the idiots competitive.

    Trucking is the highest paying moronic job there is. No matter how many cameras you put on that idiot, no matter how much sleep he gets, no matter what cattle prods you put in a truck, Stupid is going to do something stupid.

    Lots of you guys hate cops. Imagine if the police departments chose candidates the way the trucking companies do. Find some fat fool who can’t look anyone in the eye, and can’t wipe his arse without breaking a sweat, give him a physical to see if he has a pulse, give him a rule book that you never expect him to read, give him a weapon and put him in a patrol car for training with a guy who was a homeless drug addict 3 months ago.

    “Wait...we could put cameras in the car!”

    Yes! That’s the solution! That will make them safer! Not! If you were reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally concerned about public safety, wouldn’t you raise the qualifications and hire only quality individuals?

    “But there’s a severe shortage on qualified individuals...”

    And lowering the qualifications and hiring unqualified individuals is the answer?
     
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  3. TankerP

    TankerP Road Train Member

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    A lot of things happened in 2017. Trump became president in 2017. I can name a poster here who would gladly blame it on him.
    Correlation does not imply causation. You’ll need more to prove your point.
     
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  4. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    I noticed a rise in what I would call fatigue, as in guys were just tired not used to running hard, accidents around October.

    Like they had a normal year in already.
     
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  5. tucker

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    Does anyone think that if Greg was using paper logs and was 3 hours from his nice warm home and was hitting his 14 hours.
    Well does anyone think Greg would stop and take a nap or would he get er done and drive straight home?



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  6. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    OBJECTION.

    Your Honor, if it please the court, Greg states he is only 1 hour away from his home.

    Furthermore your Honor, Greg would have stopped and rested, but then would have been out of time, and his electronic ratting device would have ratted him off.
     
  7. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    I feel that if Greg was allowed to use paper logs then he would drive tired to get home or to deliver on time or even to get to his favorite truck stop.
    Then he would “create” a legal looking log sheet.
    Greg is the reason we are using elogs
     
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  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    OBJECTION.

    Your Honor, Mr. tucker is fabricating a conclusion based on a hypothetical fantasy with not even a trace of fact.
     
  9. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Greg would have stopped to take a nap and continue on home in violation of his logs, but doctored them up to erase the time spent napping and make it look as though he drove straight through to home and made it within his legal hours, or----- stopped for a short nap and continued on home and doctored his logs to appear he took a full 10 hour break instead of a short nap. Instead he had to drive fatigued and risked the general public.
     
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  10. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    You were correct up until you said he HAD to drive fatigued .... what FORCED him to do that?
     
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  11. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    The tucker made him do it.
     
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