Driver shortage or special breed?!?!

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Suffy Transport, Apr 9, 2019.

  1. Freightliner Classic

    Freightliner Classic Light Load Member

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    LAZY no good drivers dont want to do the work all they want to do is hole the steering wheel.Afraid to get their hands dirty
     
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  3. dieselpowered

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    I don't mind the work but some have physical injuries that we get from younger days being stupid. Like fighting constantly with people did my fair share of wrestling, kick, boxing those are the specialty I have picked up others like Krav Maga to adapt to my MMA sadly injuries. Keep getting more and more never truly heal I expect in years to come I won't be able to do much more of it. mind you I am maybe only 31 done more fighting then most have in their lives. I limit my physical work to reduce extra wear and tear on me though I think it is pretty useless in terms to slow the injuries I get constantly. the average driver is lazy but one that protects himself best he can outlast ones who look for that quick dollar. For me it is fighting top priority then work g/f is tied with fighting in priority but she knows my passion always been MMA that when that's on off-duty shes only the priority
     
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  4. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

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    If you want company employees pay them W2.
    If you want to pay owner ops 1099 that's fine.
    To compare @x1Heavy stated $1500 pay in the 1980s.
    Let just say it was 1985 pay of $1500 a week. With inflation that $1500 would equal $3543.71 today 2019.
    And carriers wonder why they can't hire labor??
    Pay rates and inflation rates have not risen equally.
     
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  5. dieselpowered

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    But you can say that for every carrier company even the top end companies are tech underpaying people. Even if its the industry highest like Walmart, ups or whatever you chose. I don't expect any change anytime soon or ever being better for the driver. Guess mostly you could say based on that is what can you put up with on your own personal standards.
    Me personally I will aim for higher always when the chance arises but like I mention even the highest paying companies compare that pay with the 70s and now with inflation, it should be well over 100k for top tier driver. but how many drivers get this not enough I am not even talking about those for flatbed or even hazmat. personally, I think they need to increase it I have relatives who done it off and on over the years most the smarter ones actually went overseas and make over 100k but they were former soldiers and have traveled much more then I have.
     
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  6. Gdog66223

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    The reason it hasn't changed none is because there are 100 drivers waiting in line to take the place of the guy who isn't happy with his job. Been that way for years.

    It will never change as long as these owners are lining their pockets with cash. They are not in it to make the driver or worker happy. Walmart is not in it to make the driver happy. They are in it to make their bank accounts fat.
     
  7. dieselpowered

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    There may be people who may take a spot but when someone stops driving that truck stop generating money. Big carriers there are trucks that sit, my experience with a mega carrier alone seen this first-hand terminal with trucks just sitting. Known a few trucks that sat for a year, that's money lost. Sometimes they have to train people from scratch personally I think this is there bread and butter these schools people looking get a CDL to go to a carrier and make money off them.
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    You will always have 50 people going to your orientation who thinks 1000 a week today is good money. (Key word thinks.)

    1500 in the 80's is related to government style work or military officer type etc. Per week that's close to what my pa made as a college educated professional at the gas company. They finally went ahead and bought him out in his late 40's because literally a human cost the gas company could not afford. They rather pay him 15000 in pension annually than 45000 in salary. So the gas company did well. And hire some 21 year old graduate to do that work until the computers automated it in the early 2000's

    The electric company just automated our meters with the new digital models that put the meter reader as a person, his truck and clipboard etc all out of job. The meters report back to central wirelessly to a collector on the telephone pole every 15 minutes. the entire state of arkansas is going digital and should be completed within this year. No more analog meters.

    (What we do with meters on house is have the electrician cut the mains A and B off the meter top. That goes to the service drop pole and transformer.) he then installs 4 feet 4 inches thick stranded copper cabling from the meter top to the aluminum service drop wires a and b. That way the meter gets the juice measured properly but does not get heat and spin very fast. So a 150 dollar a month billing was reduced to 30 a month and we are able to surge 200 amps off that box to the entire house and not worry about that box burning up.

    The original box inside our bedroom wall for 40 years was buzzing, as the mains ate through the insulation towards the wood inside the walls. Had it burned through, it would have burned the house down with us in it.

    My ex she was with the federal govt when I met her at her pay scale its close to 50K with benefits 20 years ago. Her particular job has become automated by a robot. She is no longer necessary. What they wanted her to do was move up in GS pay grade but introduced her to a high management culture that enjoyed three hour lunches as long something got done today. (Key word something.) Her salary at the previous grade today would have been closer to 130k with benefits. She probably would be somewhere above 150K if she stayed in the system (Government work)

    We both live on very little relatively speaking. When I go there is about 400K in life insurance, burial etc paid up so there is no expense there. Probate, executor, will etc all of that was taken care of prepaid as well. The 400K will be properly spent inside the month poof. and I approve of it anyway.

    A very long time ago growing up some relatives came from old money. So much money that it literally did not matter. They still went to work very hard all their lives because that money does not mean you sit home and rot playing video games. And they did quite well. at the end what with the medicals etc pretty much wiped all that out. When one of my parents died her final billing total was 240,000 dollars after military insurance that was still due. it was paid. When the other parent goes he will have nothing. You come into this world with nothing and you leave with nothing. But for the people that mattered there were things far more valuable than just money.

    For us 9-11 was the ultimate problem. Destroyed the payroll and the people. When were told two choices. One go home with unemployment and sit. Plan on months before we call you back on the road with those medicines. We told the boss no we keep rolling those medicines on our savings. It was 7 weeks before the paychecks finally came in and everything was back on track. The medicines were delivered everywhere and that truck rolled. It was a very bad day but at the same time that truck did not stop with the medicines. The first load delivered crossed GWB on the 12th at night about 9:30 Pm going to Linfield CT McKesson which controls the entire US Seaboard medicine wise. Approx 10 billion or so in inventory on hand give or take. (Our usual load is a million in value.) however Detriot cubed out our trailer for NYC and to this day we can only guess at the value, approx 5 million or more. With more trucks coming. I like to think that NYC had a need of that medicine and they got it. They can thank detroit for it.
     
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  9. Western flyer

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    Let me clue you in.
    Sitting on our butt holding a steering wheel
    All day, pays the same as your manual labor.
    So why do the manual labor.

    Every job that can't be filled has the same problem.
    Your not paying enough for the work and/or responsibility
    That comes with the job.

    Add 300 bucks a week on top of their pay.
    Driver shortage solved.
    But noooby wants to do that !
     
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  10. Gdog66223

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    Greedy Owners
     
  11. TankerP

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    If you really have amazing pay and benefits then you won’t have a hard time finding drivers. Period.
     
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