Will industry shortage make automation come sooner

Where did you get I was railing against them?
BTW, Tesla's are Level 2, not level 3. See Tesla’s full self-driving computer is now in all new cars and a next-gen chip is already ‘halfway done’ – TechCrunch

My point is simply be truthful and don't lie with statistics, or any other kind of lying..

Yes self driving will come out, but it's not going to be anytime soon. Heck they don't even have reliable Level 2 in conditions like construction, much less weather like snow. Level 5 in snow is decades away.

 

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.

Fun fact, a FIRST YEAR DRIVER is generally SAFER than a two year experienced driver. Check with the insurance companies on that.

And I guaran-######-tee that ANY human driver is safer than a bunch of wires and lines of code (that, by the way, can be HACKED, check into hackers cracking a Jeep) when it comes to driving.

Driving is not just trained skill. It is an art. You cannot teach a computer how to feel the road under your tires. You cannot teach a computer how to look at the sky and tell the weather 60 miles in front of you. You cannot teach a computer to see the ONE single driver a half mile down the road that is going to cause the sudden slow down. An experienced HUMAN driver can do these things. For us, it becomes second nature.

Hell, we don't even discuss the DAILY near misses we have because seeing them before they become a problem for us is so ingrained it's almost a Zen-based martial art.

Play with your simulators. Write code until you turn completely cross-eyed. Try to figure out a program that will take into account EVERY POSSIBLE traffic situation you and your programmers can possibly think of. And you know what? A first year rookie WILL encounter and overcome something you never dreamed of, and will consider it a normal day.

 

It's not gonna happen in my time.Thankfully my retirement is right close.

 

If a habitual drunk driver kept claiming he hasn't gotten caught, hasn't killed anyone, and hasn't wrecked and claimed to be safe you would recognize he is lying. BECAUSE it's a piece of technology that is attempting to cause a wreck, you are using the drunk driver's logic.

The system on my HazMat smooth bore tanker that at least once per month slams on the brakes, sometimes when I'm in a curve (you should feel how much surge THAT causes), sometimes when I'm at full highway speed, hasn't YET happened when some other driver is tailgating me or when on icy/slick roads but it only a matter of time before it does. It has only ACCIDENTALLY not slammed on the brakes at the worst possible time.

This behavior (making panic stops) will/has gotten new drivers fired. The same behavior GENERATED by technology is defended. You are just proving why new drivers are so dangerous. Your technology worship overrides all sense of right and wrong. Technology is your binky. "Don' talk bad about my binky".

 

I'm not railing against the technology. I'm railing against the denial of the people involved that ALWAYS make excuses for the technology's problems. You are proving my point throughout the thread. I'm explaining a current, real-world problem and your 'best' argument is it hasn't wrecked or killed me yet.

If the exact same behavior was being generated by a driver with bad habits or Tourette Syndrome you would probably understand it. As it is, you are determined to NOT understand it and to just define random panic stops as nothing, eventually good BECAUSE your technology is doing it.

 

How much driving with these systems have you actually done?

 

I understand that people run over by autonomous vehicles feel 30% less pain than those run over by human drivers.

 

I have the Bendix Wingman Fusion on my truck. It’s kicked off the cruise control but never once applied the brakes. I guess mine works and yours doesn’t.

 

My system is Meritor OnGuard. This complaint is common on this system and has been for a few years. So much for engineers learning from their mistakes.