LTL Trucking/Should I Work the Dock?

Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by Davo53209, May 24, 2021.

  1. Davo53209

    Davo53209 Bobtail Member

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    So far, with everything being said, I'm starting to lean towards getting my CDL training through the local community college, followed by applying for a job which has a Dock-to-Driver Training program. What do the OD and Estes guys have to add...would this route benefit me more through these terminals?
     
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  3. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Road Train Member

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    You can also ask at those companies' individual forums at www.truckingboards.com . It is more LTL specific and there are more drivers from each company on there.
     
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  4. road_runner

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    If you can actually get your foot in the door with a dock to driver carrier, I would 100% recommend this over private schooling. I took private schooling and can tell you some genuine reasons why:

    1. The carrier will pay for your tuition

    2. You will in most cases get paid to go to school.

    3. Even if you already have a CDL, most companies make you work the dock anyways.

    Only downside is you have to sign a contract stating you will not quit or you have to pay back your tuition ...this is money you would have payed out of pocket anyway.

    Get the OJT experience and focus on finding a dock to driver position. Most companies are hurting for drivers.
     
  5. Davo53209

    Davo53209 Bobtail Member

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    In between responding to everyone's posts, I've been reading through the job reviews on indeed and glassdoor.com. Apparently, working as a line-haul driver for Estes is ranked rather highly amongst Old Dominion; but as a dock worker, the reviews are brutal :confused:and there's more than just one.

    What I've been reading within these reviews, includes the very things that I'm hoping to avoid. For example, I've worked in other industries that were outside of trucking, where the intent was to work one specific position; but then being told to bide my time by working another/lesser position. What's happened with consistency, is that there was always some petty Supervisor, who would either string you along, plays favorites, or simply decide not to like you for reasons that only make sense to them and that's what I'm reading within these employee reviews about Estes.

    Bottom line, my intent to become a driver and it's sounding like I'd be better off getting my CDL license ahead of time, before applying to any LTL freight company. Granted, I don't expect to be hired on immediately as a driver without any experience; but if they in fact do have a Dock-to Driver training program, I will be further ahead than some ordinary dock worker/applicant.
     
  6. im not real sure

    im not real sure Light Load Member

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    I got my CDL from a school. Primarily so that I was not obligated to any one company. But here is the kicker with the grant. Well at least when I used the grant 12 years ago. They required you to drive OTR for at least 1 year, they even called and checked. Now this may have changed. I am a new hire at OD, I start in a few weeks. The guy that gave me my road test is a driver trainer. He told me how they have a driver training program. There is a driver at the terminal that went through it. The trainer made it seem like it was a good program. They send them to a school at a bigger terminal. Then they come back and drive with a trainer for a while. How long the OJT with a trainer is, I'm not sure. Everything I know about OD and everyone that I know there and have met absolutely love the company. If I was in your shoes... I would get my CDL through a school, if they do not require OTR anymore. Otherwise, I would look into the OD program. Just my 2 cents
     
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  7. Texas_hwy_287

    Texas_hwy_287 Road Train Member

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    Get your license on your own if you have the means to pay for it as it will put you ahead of the game.

    Once you get your license get all the endorsement and apply as a right now everyone is hiring.

    Also check out this Estes thread there you can ask questions to current Estes drivers.

    Good luck.

    ESTES Express (1 Year Review)
     
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  8. gym23

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    Just my 2 cents i recently got hired at OD within a month after getting my CDL because I have no experience I was told I have to do the driving school and work some dock. Now I wasn’t excited about working the docks but I also knew how fortunate I was to even get a offer nevertheless hired by a good company(read every review I could find). So heres where I’ll give my input I would suggest getting your license first only reason I say this is yes you’re gonna have to go through there driving training school as I’m currently in but guess what!! I’m basically getting paid to relearn everything I already know on top of that one of the main benefits of having your license before hand is I don’t have that pressure of hoping to pass the DMV test as most of the people in my class because I already have my license. Now the biggest con is those guys are getting a free CDL granted they sign the contract for a year BUT.....OD has a reimbursement program for new hires fresh out of driver school so you can actually get some money back from going to school......hopes this help
     
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  9. Davo53209

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    If you ask me, then I would say that your two cents is worth a pound of gold!

    You make some pretty valid points. By already having your CDL license well in hand, you've mentioned that you've mitigated all of the stress of passing the DMV test. Plus like it was mentioned earlier, with your license in hand, you're more or less a free agent without obligations to anyone. I especially like the notion of getting paid to reinforce what you'd already learned, especially when it comes to backing truck into a dock. You can never get enough practice in that department.

    The CDL course that I have in mind, has a duration of 12-weeks, consisting of three parts. I'd prefer that over 4 to 5 weeks of having the stress of a company trainer looking over my shoulder. At the very least, the time provided at the community college gives you more opportunity to practice. Plus, they have truck driving simulators as a bonus feature to the course.

    Even if it were to cost something out of pocket cost, the long-term payout would greatly offset the short-term investment. However; a little reimbursement from the company is already appreciated?

    In closing, everyone's input is greatly appreciate and I hoping to have more people chime in. I'm especially grateful to the get the perspective from a new hire who only had their CDL for a month. You situation will be quite similar to mine.
     
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  10. HiramKingWilliams

    HiramKingWilliams Heavy Load Member

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    I’d definitely choose school over company training. Primarily because you can bounce if you don’t like the gig. Way more options.
     
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