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  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    These are the same people who believe that unions, not God, created the weekend.
     
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  3. FLHT

    FLHT Road Train Member

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    Interesting comments here.
    Its a cut throat business since deregulation !
     
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  4. scottied67

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    Not true. The pensions are administered by a trust fund management team with a fiduciary duty to maintain the money properly. This trust fund management team doesn't answer to the union 'bosses' so much as to congressional oversight.
     
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  5. scottied67

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    The 2 day weekend, or 5 day workweek was a concept put forth in the 1840's. It wasn't until the 1890's that it became the norm in modern society with the full on advent of the Industrial Revolution. Prior to that, most people around the world were farmers, who were accustomed to working 12 to 18 hours or even more per day, depending. With the big cities opening up and the need for workers in non farming, manufacturing positions, there were no rules nor regulations. The Man (industrial management) simply made the day as long as he wanted it to be. The working class rose up and organized and demanded a defined 8 hour day with a 40 hour limit. The Man capitulated to labor's demands in order to stay in business.Thus the union movement was born in the late 1800's. Ever since, the Man (management) has been at war with labor and on a mind control campaign to get the worker bee class to hate on the very union movement the benefits of which we all take for granted today.
     
  6. Lazer

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    I don’t take for granted what we have today, I know how we have what we have.
    What chaps me, is the mindset of some, that we should bow down to those now in the union? They didn’t do squat to get where we are now. And those that think what we have will disappear if unions disappear are fools.
     
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  7. scottied67

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    It will disappear without the workers keeping the Man in check. A prime example is Amazon. Articles abound of workers there going without breaks, indeed not even allowed to use the restoorms; they are expected to use bags and bottles. Over the years, some locations did organize and voted to go union, the Man just closed the location down and moved to another city or state. Bessemer Alabama was the latest to vote against unionization. Leading up to the vote, management had several mandatory meetings the workers had to attend, where they bent their ears with antiunion propaganda. One also has to wonder if there were any veiled threats dropped regarding a positive union vote resulting in a whole plant closure. Those people make an average of just $15 bucks an hour....

    I see it happening in trucking as well. Though trucking is largely non union, the same strategies are used by the Man to keep wages low. Every time truckers were due a raise over the decades, the length and weight per truck increased. I don't have exact calculations but something like increasing from 73,280 max weight to 80,000 pounds and going from 48 feet standard to 53 standard, one driver hauling 8 loads takes one driver out of the mix. So drivers did get a raise, but the Man is just putting more on each driver's back and spreading the money they would have paid to that 9th driver out amongst the remaining 8 drivers and pocketing any leftover money.

    You may remember a few years ago they were pushing to add a 3rd axle to all 53 foot trailers (max weight 97,000 pounds) and increase doubles from 28 footers to 33 footers. That was shot down. Two administrations later, they are back pushing for it again although they have changed the 6 axle proposed 53 foot max weight to an even 100,000 pounds and are back heavily pushing congress to accept their idea of double 33's.

    They are using all kinds of mind control propaganda to push it as well, saying fewer trucks hauling more weight will save fuel therefore save the planet. Make no mistake, it is profit driven. Drivers simply cost too much, and any idea that can eliminate one driver for every 4th load hauled is welcomed by the Man.

    It's all a moot point in trucking anyway. The Man is heavily invested and interested in self driving driverless autonomous trucks to avoid paying drivers anything at all while the drivers go to war with each other over the union debate, the man will be pocketing all the money and laughing all the way to the bank.
     
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  8. Lazer

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    If workers take what Amazon shovels at them, it’s their own fault, nobody is forced to work there.
    I have never considered management ‘the man’, now if you want to consider government ‘deep state’ the man, we can agree on that.
    From what I sense from your posting you display a hatred for business owners, that is truly sad imho. If you dislike what you do for living, then change what you do.
    I have been on both side of the fence, a laborer, driver, and yes, for a good stretch a business owner.
     
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  9. RockinChair

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    @scottied67 Genesis 2:2-3 and Exodus 20:8 were written millenia before the 1800s AD.
     
  10. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Lol. The judge also said he had to pay $400 million in restitution. Right. In what world could that happen. They better be paying him pretty good for those 17 years he's going to be in a Federal prison.
     
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  11. FLHT

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    Now we ALL get to pay his room and board for 17 years.
    I think you youngsters best step it up because I will not be around to pay my share.
    You can chip in to bury my tired old ###.
     
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