Automatic braking system in all trucks built after dec 2022

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by kay_ray, Dec 14, 2021.

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  2. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    Brought to you in part by a Dictatorship that can't even spell CDL let alone know how to drive a truck
    After all they feel they need to think for everyone..
    Let's go Brandon !!
     
  3. GYPSY65

    GYPSY65 Road Train Member

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    I have a 2021 Peterbilt
    At first it was slamming the brakes on when it thought it seen a squirrel

    Pete had it in several times, they got it better but never right
    I had been dealing with a couple guys higher up in the company and one day while raining it was hitting the brakes, one of them told me to remove the cover that was over the radar hole and see what happens
    That was a year ago and it’s been good ever since with the exception of some construction cross overs or if a lane is moved. The truck thinks your leaving the road and will slow or get ready to but that’s been manageable so far

    Will see how this winter goes when I get North in the snow
     
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  4. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    After most of the drivers complained about the dangers they have adjusted the parameters on our systems.
    It still goes of w the dash lights, buzzers and the eld "eminent collision" warnings but no longer panic brakes at a sign, billboard or overpasses.
    Still causes the driver a panic attack as they grab the wheel in a death grip though...lol
     
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  5. Ridgeline

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    I’m looking for the proof that these systems will save lives.

    There isn’t any from when they are being tested to the safety efficacy of these systems just speculation.

    Like antilock brakes, these systems will cause more problems than they solve. In the case of antilock brakes in cars, there was an upsurge in accidents when they were introduced in mass because people thought they could stop faster and got lazy in their driving skills.

    A lot of these safety systems in both cars and trucks come from universities and safety consultants which are in it for the money. Grants drive safety, outcomes are predetermined by the people giving the grants and it is used for this mandate crap, just like this idea diesel particles kill people, no proof of it in the United States, all the data comes from Asia and Europe.

    Just taking a ride in one self-driving truck with a load on it a few weeks back, the engineer controlling the truck admitted that human nature and physics of an accident that puts other vehicles in harms ways in milliseconds can’t be predicted with these systems and failure of some systems like lane departure warning systems makes self-driving vehicles to avoid an incident or debris no where close as well as a human. This is proven with Teslas self-driving systems which are on the bleeding edge of the technology.
     
  6. seamutt

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    I have no first hand knowledge, but I have read that this is not true. Dealers will change certain settings for you (if you are a trucks owner) like a speed governor or an automatic idle shut-off timer, but they will not disable an anti-collision/lane departure system. It apparently has to do with insurance and liability issues. It appears to me that there are only two ways to deal with the problem. Either spec a new truck that does not have the system installed in the first place, or disable it yourself later. Although note, you will almost certainly lose your 'adaptive' type cruise control if you do pull the plug on one of these things.
     
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  7. TheLoadOut

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    What about an underground market that could, ummm, delete these systems
     
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  8. jgarciajr40

    jgarciajr40 Medium Load Member

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    I was running some doubles once, and someone cut in front of my safety gap going like 80+ mph than instantly went back into the right lane - Jesus Christ was that automatic breaking thing scary. It slammed on the brakes so hard it felt like I dropped a trailer
     
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  9. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Guess I won’t be buying anymore new trucks. Not that I had really planned on it anyway
     
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  10. Brandt

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    What system does everyone have that makes so much trouble. The freightliner built-in system works very good 4.0 with just front radar. I have not drove the new 5.0 with camera in windshield yet.
     
  11. GYPSY65

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    Have had cars in the hammer lane that I as a person knew what was about to happen
    They see their exit and cut across all 3 lanes to make it
    But. The radar can’t know that and that’s where these thing will end up one day causing a huge wreck and bendix and all the rest involved will have to get their lawyer team out
     
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