12.7 detroit 60 series running too hot

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Alytransportx, Aug 22, 2024.

  1. Alytransportx

    Alytransportx Bobtail Member

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    AC on in daytime blowing ice cold. Thing is truck wasnt like this 3 weeks ago. My temps would never go past 190 fully loaded being 100 degrees outside it normally ran 176-180 all the time and maybe jumped a little when hitting a overpass or hill.
     
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  3. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    That’s how it starts on big pulls. Whether it’s less air flow or less coolant flow. Hot summer days. Winter no problem,
     
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  4. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    If it’s blocked air flow, A/C might not work as well when parked. Condenser may stay hot from high pressure. Causing the engine fan to run more. Can’t pull air through radiator. A/C works fine going down the road. Plenty air hitting it.
     
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  5. blairandgretchen

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    Just a thought - not doubting you are having a cooling issue, but I'm a real fan of the 'Scan Guage' - doesn't have to be the KR version, just the regular one for diesels, because it gives an accurate reading of temps/oil pressure etc, from the ECM - to compare to your dash gauges.

    It's helpful to me with an older Pete where the gauges are 5% or more off.
     
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  6. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Did you just install the pyrometer since this started, or always had it and always hit 1k? 1000* is pretty hot. Do you have a tuner on it?

    Definitely the clogged radiator as mentioned above, but A/C is usually a complaint there too.

    Yes, You can have issues with a turbo that quick.

    Has your engine oil temp increased also?
     
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  7. 50WT

    50WT Road Train Member

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    I'd check the water pump also. I'm driving a glider with a 1996 12.7 ,truck is a 2017. It's had 5 water pumps in 833,000 miles the last one went out quickly, started pouring out the weep hole. This one was put on , it's a reman from Detroit it didn't make it out of the shop ,started dripping out weep hole. Got another from Detroit and it's been doing good. I'd better knock on my simulated wood grain dash Lol. Someone told me the impeller is a press fit on the shift and it can slip, don't know for sure but they are definitely a crap shoot to get a good one. Screenshot_20240825_184453_Gallery.jpg
     
  8. Alytransportx

    Alytransportx Bobtail Member

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    Well we found the problem finally its gotten worse and brought the truck back home had a driver pickup the loaded trailer finish the run. Truck started to make a whistling sound coming from exhaust while on idle and a humming noise while running and some loss of power, if you put your ear close enough you could hear the motor has a puff puff puff noise coming from somewhere. We ran some test at the yard AGAIN CAC pressure no leaks again anywhere we moved on to remove intake manifold hose and start truck and run at idle if you put your hand over the intake manifold it is sucking air in but also you feel some air hitting your palm back slight hit there is some back pressure the more you rev the truck the more it tries to suck in air but there is also a small hit of air hitting your palm and it increases as you hit higher rpms, and looks like its a valve, could be some valves not closing right, we dont know yet until we take the head off and see whats happening. Makes sense now why its running so hot, the loss of power. Ill keep you posted about what we find
     
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  9. Rideandrepair

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    Don’t know exactly how you checked the Cac. Make sure the 1” air intake hose from air compressor to manifold isn’t leaking. Usually it fails and leaks at the compressor. It’s often plumbed in on the back side of compressor, between compressor and block. It’s hard to see and access.
     
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    Alytransportx Bobtail Member

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    That was the first thing we checked and its not a cooling or CAC Turbo issue. Its a head issue somewhere in the valves ill keep the thread posted once we open it up see what we find
     
  11. W923

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    So please tell me you’re going to check the valve lash before you pull the head…. It’s fairly common for Detroits to get to where the intake valves are almost open because of wear….they only start at.006 if I remember right….we usually set them at 10
     
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