Leasing on with pre-2000 truck

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Lpirtle, Oct 29, 2024.

  1. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    I don’t think the eld exemption is not as important as the pre emission issue. Anything that’s pre def is desirable. Freightliner made a few improvements on the Classic in early 2000’s. 12.7 Detroit did as well. Minor inconvenience of an egr valve, and an eld isn’t terrible. There’s a lot of 2001-2006 Trucks at good prices. As far as Freightliner and Detroit is concerned, Only the 2007/2008 to 2017-2018 need to be avoided. Again it’s all about the engines manufactured date. Most engines are a year older than the Truck. There were a lot of “pre emissions “ Trucks sold. The term has been abused by salespeople. In reality it’s the pre “latest emissions”. Egr valves aren’t a big deal. Not compared to one box, regen systems etc. That’s what is disastrous. $10k- $20k repairs on a $15k Truck.
     
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  3. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    My 10 kw don’t have any of that stuff.. I use ELD it’s never been to kw for issues.
    OTR performance can clear codes and show issues
     
  4. Long FLD

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    If you’re worried about a speed mandate you should probably go even older and get a mechanical engine.
     
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  5. Lpirtle

    Lpirtle Light Load Member

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    So how do I tell if I'm looking at a mechanical engine? Apparently some engine models can be both mechanical or electronic according to my Google search so far
     
  6. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    you’ll have 100k into that 30k truck in no time
     
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  7. Ruthless

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    sooooooo
    I’m not gonna get on you for asking this question, however, if you need to have an older truck without emissions or an E log to think you’re gonna make money, but you aren’t able to tell the difference between an electronic and mechanical engine at a glance………
    This is what a lot of people would look at it as an early indicator that you’re gonna wanna know a lot more about what you’re getting into before you get into it

    You don’t need to have a $1500 a month computer subscription to clear codes on an engine That’s unlikely to give you that many computer problems.
    If you can’t fix it yourself on an older truck, you’re going to spend a lot more than $1500 every month on repairs and parts as well as significantly more downtime: Because you’re gonna be relying on the same shops that work on new trucks, to work on your old truck.
     
  8. Lpirtle

    Lpirtle Light Load Member

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    Fair enough that's why I'm here to get more information and perhaps come out with new knowledge that didn't previously have. Don't want to be one of those drivers that are like: "okay I just got a 1992 FLD now what?" After all if I'm about to do something stupid I would rather find out though about to do something stupid from a form post then as a bankruptcy office
     
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  9. LoneRanger

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    Went through the 20k startup truck scenario. Before selling it, I ended putting 50k into it for repairs. Before getting out of the industry, my main goal was pre egr/def, didn’t care for ELD. In fact preferred ELD over paper. Kept me from running 20hr days.
     
  10. snowwy

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    I'm thinking 80s was mechanical. Maybe earlier.

    I drove an 88 in my early years but don't recall what that engine was. I was just starting out.

    94 kw I drove was electronic.

    There's a guy pulling 5 axle side dump with i think a 70s FL. It's not pretty but it's working. It's the flat face square looking truck. Where the cab lifts up to get to the engine.
     
  11. blairandgretchen

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    I’m with Landstar, 10 years now. Signed on with a 2001 N-14, then went to a 1995 12.7 about 5 years back.

    Both trucks can run elogs, which I do - not sure if LS has an age requirement now or not. Mercer may be another -

    A couple of local places (boat hauling) that I looked into had age restrictions.

    I’d rather run paper , the truck is exempt, but they require e-logs. Most of the time it’s not an issue for me.
     
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