Find good rates?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by scaferton, Jan 10, 2025.

  1. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Your fixed costs are the only thing that you can project going forward.
    Your variable costs looking back are accurate, looking forward is just a WAG
     
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  3. broke down plumber

    broke down plumber Road Train Member

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    15¢ per mile for maintenance sounds mighty dam low unless you can turn a wrench in a knowledgeable fashion.
     
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  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I'm guessing your direct cost per mile is close to $1. But I was never an owner-operator because I just wanted a paycheck, not a slightly better paycheck and not one moment to think about something other than the truck. If you want good rates you need to find direct customers, not imagine you will find it on a load board, especially a free load board. As I understand it there are probably 10 times more loads posted on load boards than loads needing to be moved. It's a tactic brokers use to fish for desperate owner-ops with little idea of what's a good rate and a bad rate.
     
  5. scaferton

    scaferton Bobtail Member

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    That make a lot of sense. I see people taking loads that I do the math and dont understand how they make money on it.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    It's simple math once you get your paperwork together. ChatGPT can't get your paperwork together. It requires some simple work from you. ChatGPT cannot do the work that gives the answer to operate your truck unless you tell ChatGPT your individual costs for insurance, maintenance, pay, etc. Once you have those numbers to give to ChatGPT you have the numbers to calculate yourself with a spreadsheet or calculator.

     
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  7. scaferton

    scaferton Bobtail Member

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    I think that .15 comes out to something like $20k a year, but ive had people tell me I should expect closer to $50k. That would take that maintenance per mile to like .40
     
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  8. Frank Speak

    Frank Speak Road Train Member

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    I don’t want to sound crass, but everything you need to know you can back into with basic math. Calculating fuel mileage is easy. Extrapolating that is simple. What does insurance cost? Factor that down to a daily rate, weekly rate, whatever you need to help you figure operating cost. Maintenance is another simple math equation.

    If you can’t figure these things out without some app, or software, then you’re probably not going to succeed. Again, not trying to sound crass, but that’s just the fact of the matter. Frankly speaking, these are things you should’ve had figured out prior to buying a truck. It’s called doing your due diligence in the business world.

    Best of luck! I hope for your sake you get it figured out before you run out of capital.
     
  9. TX2Day

    TX2Day Medium Load Member

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    Only a little bit smart aleck:
    Pad of paper and a pencil.

    Total your costs divide by miles. Every month.
     
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  10. scaferton

    scaferton Bobtail Member

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    Lots of really good help on this thread. I think my biggest takeaway is that a “good rate” is just plain different for every single person. Every person has a different break even and a different margin they need to make on top of it at different times. I guess what I’m still struggling with is if I know my costs and I see a load that works for me, how can I tell if that price is really a good one or should it actually be higher? Is that just something I need to learn over time?
     
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  11. Truckermania

    Truckermania Road Train Member

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    You are almost there in your thinking. You have to not worry if something is considered a good rate or not. All that matters is it good for you and your costs and are you willing to take a load for the offered rate or not. What others think is pretty much irrelevant.
     
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