Hours Of Service - Is this Legal???

thank you for the longest run-on sentence in history. i ran outta breath reading it.

 

Hey lilili do the same log BUT do it where it shows the red "boo boo" lines! Make an illegal entry so they know what it looks like

This is a good example of why it's worth the money to buy a good logging program!
(mine isn't installed right now as I'm medically off the road for a while longer or I would have done it for you!)

If you have a problem with the split sleeper rule or anything else, this little bit of money you pay for the program will save your arse later and a ton of cash also! AND it's tax deductible and because you might be a company driver and you use it on your laptop the laptop became tax deductible! A win win situation in many ways!

I've heard of several other logging programs but DDL works like a charm and is written by drivers! How you use it is up to you. I just use it to back up my log book and to do a little time management when needed. I have a scanner printer in the truck but it's not cost effective to me to print out 2 pages or even 1 page for the whole year when the company gives me log books for free! I can fill out the DDL on the laptop and as I've seen mentioned, you can be fined for 2 logs in the truck, that's bunk! If they match and you tell them you use DDL to check for problems a DOT officer has no problem. Now if you're so stupid as to have 2 written books and one of them is your funny book then you've got a problem! I don't recommend that for a good time! Besides if you checked your log with DDL why would you need a funny book also? Besides isn't CSA 2010 here and that funny book can really hurt that score!

 

Here's one...



This shows a violation of the 11 hour rule. The driver should have stopped driving at 23:15. He only had nine hours available to drive after the second break period but instead drove 9.25. DDL flags this violation by shading the area red.

And this one...



...shows a current day. His 11 hours of driving are up at 19:00 and 14 hours is at 19:30. No split breaking was done is this example. DDL shades the area red at the end of your drive time.

 

OK here's a little thing I put together- a side by side representing 3 days. The first line is traditional 11 driving days with 10 hour breaks in between. The second line also shows 11 driving days but using split breaking. As you can see by the second line, that guy got to the end sooner...

|_______11_______||____10______||_____11________||____10______||______11________|

|_______02_______||____08____||______02________||____08____||______02________|

 

No, what they did was required that one block be at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper and the other block be at least 2 consecutive hours sleeper or off duty. Only the 8 hour+ sleeper break extends your 14 hour clock, the short break does not. So you can't split it like you used to, but you can do it in two installments.

 

And no more than 11 driving hours in any 14 hours on-duty... between valid reset points within the split. That's not what you're showing on the bottom time line.

 

OK I have made a new graph. I'm glad you brought that up because this is how I have been doing it, please tell me if I'm doing it (split breaking) wrong before I get into trouble!



_______11_________ 10__________ 11_________ 10________ 11______
|--------------||----------||--------------||----------|--------------|


|--------------||--------||--------------||--------||--------------|
_______2_________ 8__________2___________8__________ 2_________


Each dash represents one hour. The numbers represent driving time/break time on top line, split break time on bottom.

In the above example, both drivers are using the entire 14 hours to complete the 11 hours driving time each day.
The split break driver we'll say drove exactly 5.5 hours before and after each 2 hour break. In this case the split break driver would arrive at the final destination over a three day period 6 hours earlier than driver on first line if all other conditions are identical, (speed, weather, traffic etc).

In the real world there are a million other variables though like, maybe driver one can drive 11 hours in just 11.5 hours counting for pretrip and tire check, no bathroom nor food breaks- he would beat the split break driver.

 

As long as the split break driver drove 5.5 hours in between each break, and didn't go over 14 hours on duty, he's good to go.

 

if you cant figure out how to split....

THEN DONT DO IT

And really, i dont blame you if you dont understand. But why risk tickets? You can cheat your logbook and get the same effect and its a lot safer. Thats what i do.

 

First of all, eventually that guy driving 11 hours a day is going to be beat by the split break driver, cause generally split breaking does screw you out of a couple hours, whereas the 11.5 hour guy is going to run out on his 70, and the split break guy might not.

Generally for me to drive 11 hours i have to work 14 or so total. I'm not even going to claim i can pre trip a tanker in 15 minutes (i claim 15 for the tractor and 15 for trailer, but if im hooking up a trailer i log it in the same 15 minutes as the hook-up...). Hell one time i did a PTI on a relay and the dome lid wasnt properly locked down! $$$ big ticket right there..

,and plus i have to inspect it pretty much every time i stop to make sure no one opened my valves or dome lid when i stopped! Plus it takes forever to load/unload because of the whole pulling samples deal.

But driving 11 hours is pointless unless you go home every weekend. Why run up your 70? I only take 34 hour breaks at home.