Driver trainers,your take.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TREE, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. TREE

    TREE Heavy Load Member

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    Ok first off if this has already been asked,i am sorry and by all means mod/admin erase this post.

    The question i wanted to ask is ,how long before a driver should be able to train?
    I have seen 6 months or a year but imop do not think that is not enough time.
    It seems even after 2 years it would be case by case .
    I am not flameing anybody that are trainers after 6 months but i bet 90% shouldn't be in that postition.

    If a fast learner was a case i would think the min would be 2 years.
    Btw i know there are guys out there with 10 years who should not be trainers,but it seems like there should be a way where the higher ups could be more sure who trained their rookies.

    When i worked at Walmart grocery warehouse they had classes for all their trainers(i know working in a warehouse isn't the same)
    But the head of or manager would have a meeting with the rookie and ask them if they where pleased and you had to complete a paper with a list of questions.
    If you didn't think you where trained the way you thought ,they would go talk to another trainer and ask if they where up for the challenge.

    I am not flameing any here but i wanted to here from some of the rookies like me and the vets.:biggrin_25514:
     
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  3. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    A driver should not become a trainer for at least two years. My first trainer years ago had a whole 6 months under his belt. He also was of the opinion that women did not belong in the driver's seat of a big truck.

    With the companies that do train, I don't think they are overly concerned with the quality of the training, but the quantity.

    I do think that they should be a bit more selective in choosing trainers, and make sure that the trainers are quality people.
     
  4. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    My opinion....


    A driver should not be a trainer unless they have at least 10 years of consequative OTR time.

    10 years should be enough time to overcome the "holier the thou, I'm better then you, I know everything, billy big rigger, super trucker" mentality. Only then should they be allowed to train!
     
  5. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    I'll weigh in.

    For the most part, I agree to the 2 year minimum, with RARE exceptions. However, there are two main aspects to look at: Experience on the road, and Can they TEACH?

    22 years in service, I watched repeatedly as someone higher up thought that just because someone had 2 years exp they could teach the job. A real teacher teaches not just what to do but why! The why portion is often ignored or brushed aside with " cause I said so". I was the primary trainer in every job qualification I held.

    That said, my driving "mentor" (I hated that word) had 4 years under his belt on the road. Teaching technique, he was fine. However, his communication skills left the why portion severely wanting.
     
  6. TREE

    TREE Heavy Load Member

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    -----------------------------------------------------------------------Lilbit
    If he thought a women didn't belong then he is limited thus not a good trainer!
    And yes imop 6 months is a joke period....................
     
  7. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Rookies teaching rookies.:biggrin_25513: It is one of the reasons that certain companies have such a bad safety record.

    Regardless of time on the road, the companies need to look at a prospective trainer much more closely than they do. As was mentioned, they need communications skills. They also need patience. Good hygiene. Work ethic. Morals. People skills, not just in dealing with their trainees, but also in dealing with all their other contacts. A good trainer shows his trainee how to deal with people, by his own actions. And of course they need common sense.
     
  8. Cropduster

    Cropduster Light Load Member

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    Makes good sense to me.....
     
  9. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I disagree with the OTR part of this. The hardest part of trucking isn't getting a long way from home on an interstate. Its the backing into docks/holes at truck stops and dealing with tight places and traffic in urban areas. Trainees would be better served spending 3 months with a local guy in a city like Cincinnati, Indianapolis or Chicago than teaming with someone over the road. They would get more intense training in the areas where most of the problems happen.
     
  10. TREE

    TREE Heavy Load Member

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    I agree 100%
     
  11. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Some don't like this but I feel an additional endorsement (A driver trainer)should be added to the CDL. I believe once a driver is quaified as a trianer he shoud get paid more all the time not just when training. I believe the cut off should be 10 years along with the driving record.

    On the CDL test there would be questions on how to teach and not just truck questions. It should be more directed on truck handling and problem provention. The paperwork can be learned whil the driver is out of the truck. It should be standardized like the CDL test for all the states and the FMCSA should have spot checks to insure the program is working. The driver training should hold all the power to turn a driver out on his own to drive. Plus the driver trainer would have to be recertified by another driver trainer. If it works you've got a good system in place. If it doesn't work then you've got a better system than what most have now.

    It would have to be work and re-worked but I do believe you could come up with a system like the Smith System.
     
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