CSA 2010: The data

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rookietrucker, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member


    Just another part of the rules that is all bark and no bite. We are constantly told that ultimately it is the drivers responsibility for just about everything. Yet being put in these situations give the driver little choice. Refuse and very likely face poor dispatch, or even firing which of course will NOT be for refusing to do something illegal.

    I can never see drivers being penalized for leaving trailers in poor condition. Once they have dropped it "someone else stole the mudflaps" or lights, or flattened the tires. And I do know from hauling tankers for many years that other drivers constantly stole parts off trailers. Proving exactly who did something is problematic.

    Might be time to look for a different company? That's the only way things will change.
     
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  3. Joetro

    Joetro Road Train Member

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    Good grief. Beginning to second guess my decision to come back to this business after a hiatus. Ah, well, I'll take 'em as they come I guess. Crooked bastages.
     
  4. scottied67

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    I don't think so. My company sends out almost daily little notes regarding CSA and how to 'fly under the radar'. Tricks like following all rules, not drawing attention by doing things like aggressive driving or speeding, or having a single light bulb burned out or splash guards missing.
    Not to be rude as I sound, but both of you should perhaps have strictly refused to move those trailers. If every driver stands up for what is right the ball is back on the carrier. $400 so what? How much more would they lose moneywise if you don't move the trailer at all? The company has choices. They can teach and authorize fixes by the drivers and reimburse for the costs or pay exhorbitant fees for onroad fixes.
     
  5. UturnGirl

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    Thanks guys n gals for responding to my question. I was beginning to question my own sanity. What to do.... I know by the way I am treated that I am considered their least valuable asset. That's because if I ain't warming the seat of that tractor they can warm it with someone else's ###-set :biggrin_2559:

    Seriously, because work is scarce and competition tuff the non-union company drivers are disposable tissue. I believe the tables will turn, but in the meantime...I gotta keep paying the rent.

    Is there any other choice or action to take besides quit or close your eyes, hold your nose and hope you get to the T/A before you get pulled over?
     
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  6. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    I would stop at a scale with a DOT/MOT inspector and ask if there is a number you can call reporting the fact you have been told to take a unit with problems to a repair facility, and what are you suppose to do. If you do not ask there is no chance you and the rest of us will know.
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    With the way of the scoring on the new program, that is the last place I would go with a truck with a problem. The driver will get the points.
     
  8. cpape

    cpape Desk Jockey

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    If you are interested in working for large carriers, you should be worried about following the letter of the law. If you are interested in working for a small carrier, I would suggest having a little flexibility. I can't picture too many small carriers that are willing to pay $200 for a service call to fix a missing mud flap. What would you do if the repair bill was coming out of your pocket?
     
  9. Roadmedic

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    Personally, I would not move the truck whether it was a small carrier or not.

    It is not my responsibility to move equipment not safe and subject to fines.
     
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  10. cpape

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    Is it really unsafe to move a trailer without a mudflap?
     
  11. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Is it really worth getting a ticket?

    Is it worth a faulty thing on an inspection?

    Are you going to pay the fine?

    You going to fight the inspection?

    You going to accept the problem with a score?

    I am not.

    Had a company in 2008 to move a trailer with defective lights. I said I could not. They said to move it during the day.

    Also said if I didn't they would find someone to do it.
     
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