I don't think Swift would have a problem sending the truck to the dealer if it needed to go. The problem is with a driver walking into the shop and TELLING them it needs to go to the dealer without them checking it out first.
I'm just not even going to worry about that particular problem anymore, at least until it becomes a problem again.
Right now, I'm more concerned about the battery issues that I still seem to be having, even after waiting 2 days for them to get a part they said was bad.
So let me ask everybody a couple questions concerning their trucks:
1. How many drivers have 12v electric coolers in your trucks? And do they run all night?
2. How many drivers have any assessories plugged in and running overnight?
3. How many drivers use the Webasto bunk heaters on your trucks? If you do, does it run all night or just a few hours?
4. Of the drivers who answered yes to any or all of these questions, do any of you have a problem with the batteries draining overnight down to the safety shut-off?
This is the problem I've been having. The only thing I have on all night long is my Coleman cooler. Sometimes when I wake up, everything is shutdown. Sometimes I still have power, but shortly after turning on the light, the warning starts beeping. I won't turn the bunk heater on until I wake up freezing, then that only lasts about 20 or 30 minutes and it all goes dead.
I've had the batteries "tested" twice and both shops said they were good, although Memphis claimed to have found a problem with the cable/bars that connected the batteries together and replaced those. Still have a problem. Another shop smugly told me that there are 7 computers on that truck that run 24/7 and a cooler will run it dead overnight easily. He also said on one occasion that the bunk heater will kill it, then the next time the same guy said that once the heater fan gets going it feeds itself and is no longer a drain. He said he once had a truck sitting outside all day long with the bunk heater going and never drained the batteres.
I'm just wondering if other drivers are experiencing the same thing or am I stressing over something that is a non-issue. Myself, I think the batteries may be load-testing fine, but they aren't holding their charge very well. So they look like they are good, when in actuallity, they are getting weak.
Shop Frustrations
Discussion in 'Swift' started by dodgeram440rt, Mar 18, 2011.
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Why not unplug any gadgets you have and not use the heater...try it for a few days ..if you still have a battery problem..thyen there must be a problem with the truck.
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Sounds like Swift's shops are going the same way as Werner's. ###### shame, that. A few years back, Swift's shops were the only bright light in the ongoing misery that was driving for Swift. Of course, this was back when Swift ran at 55 mph, too...
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I run the bunk heater and cooler all night. I idle for 30 minutes to charge everything real good. I get 5-6hrs out of it. Everything else is off. Those Colemans pull a lot of juice! Mine has 2 fans. It doesn't shut down as it is plugged into the dash. The stupid thing is the fan runs constantly on the Webasto, heating or not.
My Volvo has a timer in the controls of sleeper. I set it for 30minutes and I take a short nap then turn the engine off.
There is too much crap on these trucks for the batteries. I start mine daily when home. Nothing turned on for 5 days with my truck when I was home with the flu? Deader than a stone! I bought a set of heavy duty jumper cables and had to charge it for 30 minutes at the Pilot.
'07 Volvo 1 year old batteries.scottied67 Thanks this. -
I have an 07 Volvo as well. The only time my coleman cooler is not plugged in is during hometime. My Sirius is almost always on, my GPS gets unplugged every 10 hr break. I use the laptop powered thru the truck for 2 or 3 hours daily. All of the above is with the truck off. Now, before going to bed if I think I may need the webasco I might idle for 30 minutes, if not needed I'll idle for 15. Under these stipulations I am good for about 8 hours before the battery alarm sounds. If I wake up cold without the heater, I'll turn it on, but generally will have to crank the truck and idle after 5 to 10 minutes when my alarm sounds. Again I will idle about 15 to 30 minutes.
In the summer it all goes out the window, I drive Texas regional, so when it is hot and I am in the truck, I don't have any issues with battery power as my truck is on long idle.scottied67 Thanks this. -
Gotta keep the batteries charged to operate the Qualcom with all those idle messages! -
During one of the periods when this awesome car is down to get these minor issues looked at, you are given the option to keep it or take your chances with another car. Given the company's history, you could end up with anything from a brand new 2011 Challenger to a 1974 Ford Pinto that is barely hanging on.
The first truck I was issued here was just absolutely nasty. I think it missed going thru the clean up before it was set out for assignment. If it had been cleaned, someone needs to be fired. Aside from the sticky interior that reeked of smoke, it had a major air leak and the engine was blown. Thank God that truck never made it out of the terminal! My next truck was cleaner and in better shape mechanically, but still smelled of smoke and had some other issues. Then I got sick and lost that truck. When I came back, I was assigned yet another Volvo. This was in better shape and didn't really smell of smoke, but there was a funk about it that I could never really place. Not sure I wanted to. When I was told it was going to be 6 days before the shop even got to mine for front springs, my DM got me another truck, which I am in now. I know this truck isn't perfect, but it's close enough for me. No smoke smell, the interior is pretty spotless (and other than a need to sweep the floor right now, it stays that way), the only fluid leaks on the engine have been a couple minor coolant leaks that I took care of myself by tightening the clamps. It doesn't use a drop of oil...at all. If I give it up for something else, I run the possibility of getting a new Prostar or a 2006 Volvo with 600,000 miles, more oil on the outside than the inside of the engine, and smelling like an ashtray inside the cab. Like I've said before, they will have to fire me to get me out of this truck!
Now with all that said, judging by the responses to my questtions above, it sounds like the battery drain is actually normal. While I was waiting in the shop here in Columbus (more on that in a minute), I was looking at those folded white papers that say Swift on them. (Memphis has them when you first walk into the drivers lounge hanging on the wall). They are kind of like instruction manuals for different items on the trucks, like How to work the bunk heaters, or DOT inspection items, CB installations, stuff like that. One of the papers talked about this very battery drain problem. The bunk heaters only use about 2 amps and can run about 10-12 hours before running the batteries down to the safety shut-off. The coolers use 9 amps and will kill the batteries in about 5 hours. So it sounds like what I thought was a problem is actually normal.
Now, why was I back in the shop in Columbus a week and a half after spending 5 days in the shop in Memphis? Simple. While trucking along yesterday, my check engine light popped on, which of course is the first step in the regen problem. Great. But I had to stop for fuel, and when I restarted the truck afterwards the light stayed off and onward I went. This morning I tried to deliver my load in Hebron, KY. MY dispatch said to deliver on 4/2 between 02:30 and 14:30. When I get there, the guard says they are closed on the weekends and there is no one there who can sign my papers, plus I didn't have the needed appointment number to deliver. So I call Swift and they t-call the load in Columbus. On the way here, the check engine light comes on again. So I leave the truck running while I drop the trailer in the yard and run the bills inside, then drive over to the shop and get them to check it out. This time they are able to find a possible problem, got that took care of, did a forced regen, and I need to drive it to see if the problem returns. Hopefully this time, it's taken care of.scottied67 and Rotten Thank this. -
Gottcha.
I think I wrote it up above already, but I will share my shop frustrations.
First load with the truck I needed to send for breakdown-- tried a parked regen (both check engine light and regen light were on) and after a few minutes observe massive amounts of smoke doming from an exhaust leak behind turbo. Guy comes out and bangs on the clamp to make it seal better, adds a couple of small washers and tightens it up.
Tcalled that load in Troutdale and put in shop for that problem, 2 roof leaks and windshield wiper pump was not squirting juice.
4 days later out of shop, get load 50 miles along regen and check engine light on again. Now down to 1 roof leak. Drive around for a couple weeks trying to make money and wanting to put in my home shop rather than someplace else because I cannot afford hotels for days on end while they work on it.
On a load back home, the heater control valve disintegrates pumping out all the coolant, broke down in the Rocky Mountains now. Onroad sends out the local mechanics from 100 miles away and they hacksaw a little copper fitting off and reinstall so I have heat, just cannot adjust the heat-- $1016 for that little job.
Get back home, put in Swift shop they work on if for a couple days and send it to Kenworth for almost a week. Go to pick it up and do a full pretrip before I leave, discover the dash lights and interior lights are not functioning. "Oh our mechanics are eating lunch right now". So got that fixed, got a load and 50 miles down the road, check engine and regen light, yep came back on. Now its past the Swift pays 30 day warranty--I guess it's OK runs good and the other roof leak I will take care of myself by smothering all suspected leak areas with gobs of silicone lol.Rotten Thanks this. -
Since this regen problem has been an issue from the beginning, you might try talking to the fleet manager or terminal manager about covering it until it's fixed. Just a thought.
The issue that Columbus found with mine was a problem with exhaust temperature readings. The regen chamber has 2 temperature sensors, an inlet and an outlet, about a foot apart from each other. From what I was shown and was explained to me, these 2 readings should be on average within about 100 degrees of each other. What they first saw with mine was a large difference in the readings. The code that was set, gave a diagnostic instruction to check all the electrical connections on these sensors and repair as needed. So the mechanic rolled underneath the truck to where this stuff is at, fiddled around, then they backed the truck outside (and no, they didn't toot the horn!) and did a forced regen, after which the readings were back to normal. Now I just need to drive it and see if it has made any difference.
That really sucks that you have had so much trouble with your truck so quickly. Hope it gets better for you soon.scottied67 and Rotten Thank this.
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