Why no recycling at ANY truck stops?

Discussion in 'Truck Stops' started by stocktonhauler, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Colorato

    Colorato Road Train Member

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    This is sad and true but at least the stuff would get to the recycle centers and not the landfills. I'd like to think once the companies started to see the monies available in this they'd make it hard to steal. The account I run has recycling containers at the factory all over the place.
     
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  3. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    Plastic cost a lot to recycle, but I would rather recycle it than having it fill up the landfills. I pay a small recycling fee in my town, and since I started recycling all plastic #1,2, and some #5 bottles, tin and aluminum cans, papers, magazines, and glass, the amount of trash left over is very little.

    I went from a 30 gallon bag or two every week, to less than a 30 gallon bag every two weeks. I also use a kitchen trash compactor, which really turns a lot of trash into a very small cube.
     
  4. stocktonhauler

    stocktonhauler Medium Load Member

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    Most of this problem is due to under capacity at the Truck Stops. To begin with, trash bins need to be placed where truckers can easily reach them, and they need to be dumped routinely. I also notice that often truck diesel fuel islands have undersized trash bins originally designed for automobile fuel islands.

    Not all truck stops are complete trash heaps, but some are indeed really bad. But, it's not all because of sloppy ignorant truckers...
     
  5. sayli

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    People can slightly get their trash to the trash bin and now you want them to form it into many receptacles..
     
  6. stocktonhauler

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    That's definetely a waste problem seemingly hard to solve. Urine pissed in huge amount around trucks stops isn't good for local drinking water supplies. Many truck stops are graded with culverts to trap and drain any toxic waste, piss included, so it doesn't just become an environmental problem.

    But, basically the problem here seems to be one of DENIAL. Newbies are first shocked by the piss bottle, then during a blizzard find the advantage of using one in the middle of the night. But, truck stops ignore the obvious and don't provide special piss bottle disposal tanks at the fuel island. It's a hidden reality nobody wants to address it seems.

    An odor free piss bottle disposal tank would get a lot of use, and I'll bet the gallons of urine captured would have a market value at the fertilizer or DEF factory.

    In a simple set up, next to the tank could be a odor free disposal for the plastic bottles, of course, but a more advanced tank would take the bottle, and separate the plastic from the urine mechanically.

    Wait...Let's calculate this. 26 gallons of DEF, having 10% urea, equals 2.6 gallons urea. I don't have a DEF using truck, but I understand that the 26 gallons would be used in about 5,000 miles? Probably the driver's urine would more than supply his own truck's need. Why not have an onboard filtration and mixing system that would take the cab urinal and garden hose supply to make the DEF supply? Then the excess could be dumped like RVers do.
     
  7. sazook

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    I got a better idea...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdsU_cn8u8E[/ame]
     
  8. stocktonhauler

    stocktonhauler Medium Load Member

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    The plastic and paper producers don't include the cost of garbage collection and landfill maintenance as part of the "cost". If they did, the price of plastic and fiber would rise, and producers would find ways to reduce that cost by recycling.

    The environmental cost of forestry, mining, and oil extraction operations are obviously not carefully considered by big corporations either. The shrimp harvest in the Gulf was extremely low this year. Anyone have a guess why?

    If freeway concrete and rebar can be recycled in a cost effective way, I don't see why plastics, paper, glass, and not just metals, can't be captured and reused.

    Truckers probably should be given a chance to do the "first sort" by having sorting bins, but otherwise truck stops and garbage companies can figure out a way to separate constituent materials for reuse. If mining companies separate minerals and produce tailings, then mechanically sorting trash should be easy.
     
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  9. Joescheppae Q

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  10. scottied67

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    I'm in the process of inventing a piss filter called The Purineator. Basically you pee into this thing that will have a 4 stage filter and pure water will drip through that you can drink again. It's no big deal, if you think about it, the water you drink today was somebody else's toilet water yesterday.
     
  11. CommDriver

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    I would agree that the urine and potty bags need to be taken care of before we even think about recycling. If there were separate bins for plastic, aluminum, etc., drivers would just dump urine and crap all over it.

    Some type of urine disposal at the fuel island is necessary in addition to a few receptacles in the lot. If it could be recycled all the better.
     
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