Opinions on Mexican truck drivers being allowed in US?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by sgreen, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. Pur48Ted

    Pur48Ted Road Train Member

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    Another unfounded rumor. You spend far too much time listening to MOON-BAT Radio: the Trucking BOZO (emphasis on BOZO)

    WLW700 AM Talk Show HOST: Mike McConnel talks to John Hill FMCSA RE: Mexican Trucks
    http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18...dcast/CINCINNATI-OH/WLW-AM/MCCONNELL95HR1.mp3

    WLW700 AM Talk Show HOST: Mike McConnel talks to 30-year truck driver Porter Corn who says all the talk about Mexican trucks is overblown.
    http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18...t/CINCINNATI-OH/WLW-AM/MCCONNELL090707HR1.mp3
     
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  3. Pur48Ted

    Pur48Ted Road Train Member

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    I really don't need to GOOGLE anything to know the difference between "illegal aliens" and Mexican truckers that are LEGALLY allowed to cross our borders and haul freight, according to NAFTA. But; it DOES take common sense to realize that there IS a difference, which apparently many are short of.
    Perhaps they should start including a test for it in the CDL test. It would get rid of a whole bunch of stupid truck drivers. Then perhaps I could hire a bunch of illegal aliens to take their places. <sheesh>
     
  4. Pur48Ted

    Pur48Ted Road Train Member

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    If they "park their trucks and walk off into the sunset", that is a completely different issue than being "cross-border" truckers. I am wondering if you feel the same way about Canadian "cross-border" truckers? DO they belong in Canada, or is your dislike only for "THOSE" kind?
     
  5. BobC

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    I personally don't have a problem with Canadian drivers or Mexican drivers...if..They both stick with the rules.

    My problem is with the entire legislative aspect of it & the fact that our American companies are selling us out for a few more sheckles.

    Neither of these drivers is likely to jump ship just because they hit American soil.
    I can say with surety that Canadians won't.

    I find it difficult to believe that any Mexican driver will jump ship.
    He's making more money in a week than most of his whole neighborhood in a month or more.
    Why throw that away?

    Mexican people might be a number of things but stoopit they ain't.

    I see the biggest threat to American, & Canadian, drivers is the apparent disparity in the labor rates amongst the different factions.

    Canadian drivers seem to get a wage comparable to ours; give or take the exchange rates.
    Mexican drivers are assumed to get less & present a real threat to both American & Canadian trucking communities.

    I don't know what a Mexican driver is getting for the cross border operation.
    I make the assumption it is considerably less than "we" make if tradition runs true.

    What concerns me is the possibility/probability that the Mexican driver brings a "passenger" thru the gates & deposits that person on American soil to act as an advance guard to set up housekeeping here.
    Then, he gets a job with a local company for more money/benefits & starts bringing family here to their "safe house".

    Far fetched you say? Maybe. It's done elsewhere in this country everyday.
    Why not cross the river in a big truck instead of having to wade the knee deep water in the river on an innertube?
     
  6. Ronnocomot

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    Not very many DOT inspections performed mid river.
     
  7. truckin916

    truckin916 Medium Load Member

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    Yes I understand that. My best friend (and several other of my friends) are from Mexico; I don't/won't have problems with them and really didn't mean to imply that at all. It would be the license plates and/or "XYZ Company - Tiajuana Mexico" on the truck itself that will give it away, not necessarily the race of the person behind the wheel...I'm just don't see how American truckers are not on the losing end of this whole issue with the implied differences in the labor rates.
     
  8. Cynical Driver

    Cynical Driver <strong>"Eternal Cynic"</strong>

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    Bottom line, it WILL lead to job losses. There is no way to argue against that. When the entire trend of big-business is to take one of two streets, this is just a third that helps out.

    One trend is to "walmartize" and force out the small businesses, while pretending to be good for the neighborhood at first. Then treating employees like crap, forcing a revolving door of cheap, inexperienced labor.

    The other is simply to close shop and move out. Move to India, China, Pakistan, Mexico, wherever it's cheap. Then the products get shipped to us. Don't get too excited, because we still pay the SAME PRICE!

    Allowing Mexican drivers to enter this country and haul any frieght originating outside of the US is going to be a disaster. When these companies that didn't move south yet add that in, they'll move south as well. Look at Hershey. So they cut jobs to move south, then save on shipping by sending mexicans to deliver it. So, once all of our frieght originates from out of country, and we all have to work for UPS, don't come crying to me saying I was right.

    P.S. I never said these drivers were illegal aliens.
     
  9. Truck Vet

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    The Mexican truck drivers that come up here will have to be
    fairly qualified and well paid to be sent here in the first place.
    The owners of the mexican trucking companies know that because
    they don't want their trucks abandond to go work a construction or
    other job. The US has goods to export to Mexico that can't be
    exported to China. We have the best farmers in the world and
    there is a market for our chicken and vegies down there as well as
    other things. I have lived in central America and the far east. I know
    that the US can compete with anyone when we have a fairly level field.
    Our technology makes it a level field with mexico. The Chinese government
    is manipulating their currency values and our main hope to get relief
    from their cheap goods while also exporting goods in return is Mexico.
    Once we open up trade to Mexico, someday we will also be able to
    trade easily with south America by highway. The more trucks that go
    back and forth the safer it will be for American truck drivers to go down
    there. For the truck drivers that want to work hard and go to new
    places there will be no job losses. If you just want to drive local you have
    nothing to worry about either. There is always going to be change, you
    can't fight it. Do yourself a favor and prepare for it. If your good at driving
    a truck you have nothing to worry about, if not its probably a american that will take your job. Third rate drivers already have to worry about
    Swift replacing them with Russians and other europeans who barely speak
    english. But if you have a good DAC, driveing record and resume you don't
    have to worry about it.
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  10. H-D wrench

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    Perhaps USofAmerican truckers should work here and live like kings in mexico or maybe Belize (I think they speak more english there):biggrin_2552:
     
  11. Cynical Driver

    Cynical Driver <strong>"Eternal Cynic"</strong>

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    You completely ignored my large post obviously, in where I have already given you the reasons why it is not fair. So you arguing with me is over. Read what I posted again, come up with a rational argument for why NOW is the time, then post again.

    In the mean-time, while you think about that post, let me make another point. What do we have to gain from trucking to South America? The systems there are more corrupt and disfunctional than Mexico's. You are talking about a repeated system of devaluing the American worker, just to go further away from home.

    Isn't it hard enough to get decent hometime as it is? Do you realize that it would take approximately 2 weeks one way to travel to the far south tip of South America? The diesel they have is NOT up to spec to use in current trucks, and if you think you have to worry about being hijacked in Mexico, just wait until the Columbian drug-lords get to our trucks. They never have to send them back to the US. They will just have a giant influx of free, better running, more reliable truck to traffic in South America.

    Bottom line: This program does nothing to help our economy. If the Mexicans ever get up to the same level we're at, then sure, roll on, but until then, lock it down.

    Oh, and if a driver from Mexico abandons a truck, the company will just send a bill to their family, so either way he is out of luck in generating more money for them.

    As for the immigrants coming in to drive: I have no issues with this, as long as they can meet the same requirements as I can. They are immigrating, legaly. They are not coming in during the day, doing a job we used to do, and going back home to spend the money.
     
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