How come NO ONE talks about the importance of weight scales?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NewNashGuy, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Scuby

    Scuby Heavy Load Member

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    Here's another suggestion that was given to me. If there isn't a scale at or near the shipper call the DOT scale you are going by. Tell them you just loaded and ask them politely if you can scale out there. Sometimes they will let you,of course you may get inspected. DOT Officers aren't losers they,like you, have a job to do. True some go overboard,but the majority are professional. I had a DOT Officer at the Banning Coop literally tell me the reason 90% of drivers get a ticket is because of their attuide.
     
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  3. WatsonDL1

    WatsonDL1 Light Load Member

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    Here is a thread that it has been discussed in, Might be some other info in here as well. Not trying to be a smarta$$ but trying to help out people new to industry as well as people who were probably not trained by some so called trainers.

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...dvice/116787-newbies-do-yourself-a-favor.html

    other good link for winter driving http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ers/158093-winter-driving-little-nervous.html
     
  4. sbgogirl

    sbgogirl Light Load Member

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    My east coast trainer has cover scales and axle weight pretty well...Her rule is if the load is least than 19000 don't need to weight....More then 19000 go straight to cat scales...Fines can be very high for being over weight.
     
  5. sbgogirl

    sbgogirl Light Load Member

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    Also, it is important how trailer is loaded. If we have a reefer she has it loaded. 1,1,2,1,2 etc...If it is not a reefer 1,2,1,2 etc...
     
  6. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Most companies use 32k or 34k (freight weight) for the "scale needed" level.
     
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  7. A Wise Guy

    A Wise Guy Light Load Member

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    Do you have a smart phone? Yup, there's an app for that. Truckster is now a buy it app but worth it, cat scales has an app, pilot and TA also.
     
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  8. BlackLions

    BlackLions Road Train Member


    Free apps...

    -DAT (best one)
    -CATScale
    -myPilot
    -Trucker Tools
    -TruckSmart (TA/Petro)
    -Love's


    To the OP - After a few loads or couple weeks, you should be able to look at your paperwork (weight) and know where to set your pin (+/-1). You still want to scale asap but 95% of the time you should be there, might be heavier on the drives or the trailer, but legal.

    Today, I had a load set it to 10 I think it was, went over two weight stations and was fine. About 80 miles down the road I saw a CAT and this was the closest I ever came to being illegal after just guessing - 11940, 32240, 33980 but still legal.


    Some places don't have CAT scales anywhere to be seen for miles, but there's always full scales somewhere at a station or yard... Drove by a grain yard the other day, pulled in and asked if I could weigh real quick, they said go for it.

    If there's noone around, get on the CB and ask. You may not think so or may not want to ask, but you'll be surprised, truckers will actually help you out. The other day, two different guys came out of their trucks and helped back me into a real tight spot...


    So ask, be patient and you'll probably learn a thing or two from the "old" timers...


    Ok, enough of my rumbling here, good night Dallas!
     
  9. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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  10. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    The school may not have explained the importance of axle weights or you may have simply missed it due to information overload.

    Here is a basic tutorial for those unsure about axle weights.

    The general guidelines for weight distribution are as follows;

    12000 lbs steer axle
    34000 lbs drive axles
    34000 lbd trl axles.

    ANY load over 40,000 lbs should be scaled asap.

    If there is no scale close by you can "eyeball" the load. This means you look at the way the freight is loaded in the trailer. If it is uniform from front to back then line up the back of the rear trailer axle with the back of the last pallet on the trailer. If the trailer tandem has mudflaps attached to the assembly then simply use the mudflaps as a guide (line up the mudflaps with the rear of the freight).

    Now in the event you have a 53' trl be aware there are other regs called "bridge laws" that give specific distances between the king pin and the center of the rear tandem to be legal. These laws vary from state to state but normally 41' is the farthest distance you can legally have when pulling a 53' trailer.

    I believe California is the only state that has a stricter bridge law for 53's which is 40'

    The above information can be verified by going to the National Weight and Size Provisions section of your Rand McNally Deluxe Motor Carriers Atlas (No trucker should be without this tool).


    As you continue driving through the various states in this country you will soon realize that states will allow heavier weights on a tandem axle. The 12000, 34000, 34000 formulae gets moved around a bit. You still cannot exceed 80,0000 (exception; some states permit a 400 lb APU exemption which could exceed the 80k limit) as a rule.

    The following states allow higher weight limits on a tandem;

    Alaska 38k
    Colorado 40k
    Connecticut 36k
    Florida 44k
    Georgia 40,680
    Idaho 37,800
    Louisiana 37k
    Maine 38k
    Missouri 36k
    New Hampshire 36k
    New Mexico 34,320
    New York 36k
    North Carolina 38k
    Rhode Island 44k
    South Carolina 39,600
    Vermont 36k
    Wyoming 36k

    Adjusting weights are relatively simple; Slide the axles away from the freight to remove weight, Slide the axle further under the freight to gain weight.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2012
  11. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    Simply amazing.....:biggrin_2559:
     
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