how involved is the pre-trip safety walkaround?...

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by nicholas_jordan, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    I have several additional issues resolved such as contact in Victoria interviewed drivers in the yard and the information is supplied that PPE is provided by company - at least any required PPE has to be.

    That reduces my barriers to actually interviewing for water-tanker / hydraulic-fracturing down to "what is the actual depth of the pre-trip safety walk-around as it actually happens on the badged driving test at D.P.S. License Office?"

    What I am reading from the provided materials is that a full-mechanical inspection that should be done in a shop is directed, but common sense suggests it is "are the air-lines & blinkers working" style of pre-trip inspection would actually happen.

    I have decades of working around equipment so I know how to do the "inspection" seeing major issues clearly with experienced observation but not knowing how the pre-trip is actually done at the driving-skills test at License Office makes for an un-settled thinking so any reports from "done that" would do a lot to remove one of the few remaining barriers.
     
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  3. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    i am not sure exactly what you are after but if i am correct here goes
    online videos of pretrips are available on you tube
    if you are getting your cdl on your own and applying to go OTR
    be advised most companies will require you graduate from a school
    the insurance companies are the driving force on this part
    schools will also teach you proper pre trips or at least the pre trip requirements to pass
    your cdl test in your state
    NJ in all there wisdom doesnt even open the hood at the dmv on a pretrip
    though they are strict with the verbage you use and order you go in on the pretrip
     
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  4. A21CAV

    A21CAV Road Train Member

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    In TX, the PTI is covered in the written test. For your road test you will do all or part of the seven step air brake check, verbally or actually. That is all DPS requires.
    Frank
     
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  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    For licensing purposes


    TOUCH everything and describe it and what it does and is for. I have seen cases where it's way more than needed and the guy ##### his pants with the thoroughness and have a friend similar to you that failed his pre-trip doing that.

    The reasons given, didn't point at the turn signal indicators on the dash, didn't touch the pintle hitch bolts on the bumper, didn't feel the seatbelt for fraying. Didn't speed up to 5mph and do a rapid brake check. He just pulled against them.
     
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  6. A21CAV

    A21CAV Road Train Member

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    The o/p is asking about the Texas DPS road test.
     
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  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I couldn't care if it's for the timbuktoo DPS.

    Touch everything. It will depend on the whim of the examiner on a specific day/location. If they ate their wheaties in the morning or had special K. If they came to work in the morning and had a trucker cut them off or a 4wheeler.


    You don't / won't know the attitude of the person watching you and deciding if you pass or fail.
     
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  8. Matti

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    I just passed my road test here in Washington last week. On my V.I. I touched everything I was talking about and described it and what I was testing or looking for. When I was doing the under hood and outside inspection I carried a wood handled rubber mallet that I used to touch everything I was talking about. 'See it, touch it, say it'. I practiced over and over and I scored 100%. The V.I. was the first thing we did so that set the pace for the tester.
     
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  9. VTSharpshooter

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    When I took the test in Vermont, I memorized a list of 162 items to be either pointed to or touched, inspected and verified. Of course, that was after attending a local school.
     
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  10. Bishop73

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    His point was Texas doesn't require or do a physical pre trip for your driving test. It's only a written exam. They will check you lights, hazards, turn signals, but that's it. To the OP, there is a thread started by American Trucker that has a good list for the Pre trip. If you go through a school you will be shown what you're looking for.
     
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  11. nicholas_jordan

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    tp: I passed the written - PTI was one of the "had to go back second time" issues, guessing verbiage is (mostly) what I am scared of as staying within margins on a line of equipment 100' long pulling (guesstimate) [400-amps] got me fired from Pactive on a line-packer position ......

    In Texas, DPS tends to have greater reliance on "able to handle the equipment" and will write a few errors so they are doing their job but fail / pass on whether operation of the equipment presents Safety issue ~ IOW they do an excellent task by basing judgement on Public Safety

    The problem with getting verbiage to match what Badged Test Officer expects is heavily compounded by blatant inconsistencies in the written study materials provided by TX DPS

    I wrote main office tx/dps in Austin a readable letter and never heard back, I know for a fact that too much Office Stuff compounds their job.

    A21CAV ~ thank you, that is what I thought TX would do ...
    MN-Driver ~ Texas is not like that - there are some Municipal who will do that in some places but TX/DPS is unprecedented and never matched - if TX/DPS did what you are talking about we would replace the entire operation in about 6-months, "Walker, Texas Ranger" is about how it really goes here [minus the TV fisticuffs]

    Matti ~ mallets & tire-bumpers should have friction tape on the handle, which can be obtained with some effort from electrical supply
     
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