Chicago Student Seeks 7-21 day 'permit holding' 2nd seat gig

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  1. CastingMyFateToTheWind

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    Just giving it a try:

    I seek an Owner/Operator in the Chicagoland Area who may allow me to drive with him/her as a 2nd seat short-term trainee.

    Let's face it---most CDL schools only teach enough to pass the CDL test. If one struggles, then one has to ante up more coin. My struggle is the 45-degree angel backing. Downshifting at times is also an issue.

    Resultantly, I seek an O/O who is either local who drives to docks and and some non-interestate roads. Driving an interestate from NYC to LA is not what I seek. I seek the 'manuvering' of a tractor-trailer combination vehicle.

    I ask no compensation provided the yard I drive to each day is within 20 miles of my residence.

    You must be alert and sitting in the passenger seat if I am driving. Further disclosure, I learned on a "Day Cab' truck i.e. not a double-bunk sleeper length truck.

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    For those that wish to chide with "You will never get an O/O to do this" and other such, save it--just let my thread go to crickets chirping and tumbleweeds blowing. I only want to read from those that would consider my proposal.
     
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  3. Mark Kling

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    As a non-CDL holder this would reflect highly on the O/O's insurance. But, that is asking a lot of a driver to take a permit holder only and pay for their food/shower/lodging. I think the first question would be what do you bring to the table to make it profitable to the O/O? If nothing then you would be a cost the O/O would have to deal with that has nothing in return for them.

    With the new regulations, the O/O can only sit so long in the passenger seat without having to drop down to Line 4 and thus burn up their 70 hr clock.

    Does your permit allow you to drive out of state or in state only?

    I think the O/O's insurance would balk at this type of offer.
     
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  4. CastingMyFateToTheWind

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    Okay---you got me--a bit; I did not think of the insurance angle. There are students in my class that are driving on their permits, however, cadidly, they are with either 'friends' or 'family'. I have neither. As to whether my Illinois Class A Permit is allowed in other states--I would think so; an Illinois CDL would be good in other states....

    I offer the services of a 33 cents/mile driver and he gets the rest of his $2.00/mile less fuel, tolls, brokerage, etc. If there is not enough profit in this for the O/O, then he should pass at my offer. He also has the non-financial benefit of not driving--if this matters not to him either, then again, he should pass on my offer. If he thinks I would tear up his truck, pass. Perhaps I may impress him and he may refer me to a company that could employ me.

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    My question to YOU is; why should I drive AND pay money to live on the road when I can just take the same money and pay my school...? If I was a CDL holder at a big box company, I would pay for food and showers in just 200 miles driving. If I drive 400 for the O/O, I would think that my asking for so little would be not be too much of a balk....save the insurance thing you pointed out above.


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    After some thought, and after your post, I decided to resind my search for regional drivers--too much of an issue and too complicated.
     
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  5. Rugerfan

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    .33 cents a mile? for a permit holder? not to ruin your thread but buddy thats insane. being just a permit your lookin at like .10- .15 a mile maybe
     
  6. Cobra67y20

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    Good idea to resend
    Do some research about truckers pay and the expenses to own a truck. You should be paying the trucker, he's taking the risk.
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    After some thought, and after your post, I decided to resind my search for regional drivers--too much of an issue and too complicated.
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  7. Mark Kling

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    Showers - any driver gets a shower credit for $50 worth of fuel pumped. If a "team" then that credit extends to both drivers..

    A Permit is not a valid CDL. I would think that some restrictions apply as to in-state/out of state. You should verify that with the DMV in IL.

    Your driving is only going to net the O/O a few hundred miles. I think the new rule is 2 hours max in the passenger seat then they must log On Duty.. But then again that is 2 hours less sleep they are getting against their 10 hour DOT break.

    You do not offer much in the way of a "team" driver to help the O/O turn more profit. If it was a flatbed, then you would be extra help in tarps and chaining.

    Note also your weight and baggage would go against their gross weight of the truck.

    I agree with the .33 cents part. Even as a beginner CDL driver they only net about .20 - .25 cents.
     
  8. windsmith

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    I believe that it's one credit for the FIRST 50 GALLONS pumped. Per day.
     
  9. gokiddogo

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    Well that was a bit extreme, but it needed to be said.
     
  10. Mark Kling

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    yes,, should have clarified more... thanks,
     
  11. Mark Kling

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    Your leg must be hurting you...LOL
     
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