With some of the talk regarding the new pay scale, I thought that I would start this and hope that some mentors might chime in and tell how it is working out, especially for some that might be thinking about it in the future, also as far as the L/O.
I just had a thought (yes, now and then I actually get one, and now my head hurts). Student and mentor sitting at a dock. The mentor logs sleeper, and the student logs on duty. Sit at the dock for 5 hours, or even possibly a way lot more. Student is getting paid. The mentor is not. The mentor is saving hours, the student is not. Now if at said dock for 5 hours, who is going to get the detention after the first 2 hours, especially if it is a L/O. Now if I am the mentor, will this mean that I have to also be on duty while sitting at the dock to get this detention time. Now also according to some, you are supposed to log on duty while waiting for a dispatch. Wonder how this will all play out.
Got a msg today from Blue, and did find out something, super solo, student uses up all hour and mentor has plenty due to super solo, student can get a 34 while truck is still rolling down the road. So with this in mind, student, use up your 70 every week, on and driving combined.
New Pay Scale for Students
Discussion in 'Swift' started by blsqueak, Dec 16, 2012.
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I would think the mentor would still be entitled to the entire detention pay. Never had the opportunity for detention pay as a student but we did do a few hazmat loads, my mentor kept the hazmat pay for himself.
Funny thing, later when he hired me as a teammate I asked how we would split hazmat pay, he said teams don't get paid hazmat pay lol. Interesting that one of the main specific reasons he wanted to hire me was due to hazmat license and he was hot for these hazmat loads.
This whole kick for making everything required to be logged on duty, I think is the beginning of a push to get rid of solo truckers in the company, indeed in the industry as a whole. I was at a place the other day, arrived dropped trailer in door and was required to stay on the property (by the customer's rules, cannot leave facility). Ran out of hours right there after 7 hours waiting for unload. They called and said empty trailer is ready to go, I said "alright be right there" lol, waited another hour of sleeper and got positive hours back and took off. But doing it Swift's way, On Duty, I'd still be there. -
If it's a student/mentor situation, I believe the student receives a flat rate of $75/day or whatever it is now.
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Nope, their pay scale has changed. Now they are paid by the hour. So much a hour for on duty, min wage, and $1 extra per hour for driving time.Tapeworm Thanks this.
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Yup - what Squeak said. Effective mid November(don't remember the exact date).
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Student: i make min wage + $1 while driving and min wage while on duty not driving
So i drive the he## out of my mentors the last few days for me were around 10.00 10.50 & close to a complete 11 twice.....
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This is exactly why this new pay system is dangerous.
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Q. How so?
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Because the student might start to think only of the money instead of training, and that they might start to push themselve very hard before they are actually ready. This is also something that the mentor needs to watch for. If it is a mentor that is only in it for the money, he knows that after the 50 hours, then becomes a team, hence, more money. Another thing, if the mentor is a L/O, run out the 70, the mentor has also run out of the 70, and now his truck is sitting making no money. As a mentor, my students will be staying at the 8-8.5 hour driving, per day. This is still 56 hours per week, do not run out of hours. If run out of hours, then you are sitting for 34, and if a l/o, I do not think that he is going to like that. Yes, one week will have the miles, but the next, will be short the miles. Will it balance out, maybe,
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I was thinking about this today, and finally came up with a better answer. Whether your drive 10 hours per day or 8.5 hours per day, you are still going to do 240 hours, so you are still going to get paid the same. You run 10 hour days for 7 days, you are outta hours, so now you will go two days without pay. Now if you are outta hours and you are at full team with your your mentor, the mentor just lost out. He can drive, but now solo. Do you think that your mentor might be happy with that. Figure that you are training for 4 weeks, that might work out that you are taking 3 resets, so that is 3 times that your mentor has also lost miles. Just a thought.B*Rocka Thanks this.
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