before the 14 hour clock crud started, you could split log in any way you saw fit. was an 8 hour break back then, and you could make it 5/3,4/4,7/1...whatever. now it MUST be at least 8 hours in the sleeper, then 2 hours. not 2 then 8, but ONLY 8 then 2. either or both can be more time of course, but neither can be less. any amount of driving time in between, as long as it adds up to not more than 11...same with the 14 (any amount of on duty time in between, as long as it doesnt add up to more than 14 hours).
you can continue this 8/2/8/2/8/2 theoretically forever. the problem with this is it is so seldom advantageous. the only reason i can see to use split logging now is to pick up a load 2 hours quicker than you wouldve been able to under the regular logging. seems thats more advantageous to your company than to you. ive never used the split log since the 14 hour clock came into effect, it just almost never helps, period.
split-sleeper berth time
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ATCH, Feb 2, 2013.
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Wrong, either can be first, has been addressed here many times. The only one that extends the 14, or stops the clock, is 8 hours or more, if the 2 to less than 8 comes first, the eight to less than 10 completes the 10 consecutive hour as being equivalent to 10 consecutive hours or more.
I use it often for the runs that can't be completed in 14 hours with 11 hours of driving, but I seldom go that far past Chicago, about 5 and a half hours one way by the shortest route.
The last break is always the 2nd break when figuring your 14 and 11, so the 2nd last break becomes the first, even if you have been doing it indefinitely.
I have one of those poor seats, and driving too many hours in a row is difficult, so I break the longer runs, too. Wish I had the National seat again.Scalemaster Thanks this. -
I've always felt that the split sleeper berth option was an advantage to both company and shipper/receiver but have failed to see how it helps me - therefore I do not incorporate it into my operation model...
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Our freight is limited, they only ship 4 or 5 days a week, and if I get back a day later, I don't get another run that week, the advantage is to me in getting more effective rest and a bigger paycheck, assuming I even get another load that week. We also do some dumb things like delivering everything but 1 drop and then waiting 16 to 20 hours to deliver the last drop 50 miles from the last drop the day before. That is too long to sit anywhere with nothing to do but be in a small sleeper truck. There are things to do but we are technically under load, even though we can't deliver it a minute early.
We do do other things on occasion, but that doesn't happen often. That 8 hours and a break will screw those up because they will add 1/2 hour to a trip that is only just over the 8. (Northeast IN to northeast Iowa, or maybe 10 hours from southwest IN to northeast Iowa. When it's hot out, 1/2 an hour is too long to stop with poultry on board.
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I use it all the time. If I'm gonna need a 10 hour break anyway and the pickup time is noon or so, a good time to shut down is around 1600-1700 for 8 hour sleeper break rather than driving 9 or 10 or so hours and hoping to find a parking spot that late at night.
So normally get to the shipper for live load, log 2 hours off duty backed up to their dock whether it took that long or not, drive 4-5 hours til 1600 then 8 hours sleeper, get up and drive 4-6 hours more then take a 2 hour break. Drive 4-5 hours again and next break would normally be 10 for me at that point.
I've also done two 8 hours sleeper breaks in a row before like this--- drive 4-5 hours, 8 hours sleeper then drive a couple hours and deliver load, still have 6-7 hours available or so, then take another 8 hour sleeper break if my next load pickup would be before 10 hours out.
Oh ya, doesn't matter if you start with a 2 hour break or 8 hour sleeper break.25(2)+2 Thanks this. -
Just remember when you are splitting the sleeper - the only thing that EARNS you time, is 10 hours off.
Until you complete BOTH periods (8 AND 2) you have not earned back any time.
Also, you start counting your 11 and 14 hour rules at the end of the first break.
This is what messes most people up when they try to split their break.
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