Grinding gears,how harmful is it for a tranny?

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  1. KAMA3

    KAMA3 Bobtail Member

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    Hello everyone.I'm a brand new to the industry, just got out of a trucking school and company training. It's less than 1 week of experience by myself so far. In school we were taught on manual 10 speeds,(double clutching)I didn't really have issues operating it,but now I've got 13 speeds Eaton Fuller(company trainer was teaching me floating gears since day 1) for training and work and still having problems finding a right gear sometimes. When I'm looking for a right gear,I'm obviously grinding. Wondering,if I'm badly damaging transmission/engine that way? Or maybe this transmission is already in bad shape,so that makes shifting harder? Any advice is appreciated.

    P.S.I don't have issues with gradual up/downshifting,but when I have to slow down rapidly (like if for a sudden traffic on a highway),I have to go several gears lower at a time,that's where I have difficulties.
     
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  3. Mark Kling

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    Well, it certainly is not doing the tranny any good. You are basically grinding the metal off the gears... liken it to hitting your foot with a hammer, you foot may work but it will not function like it should after awhile.

    If you cannot float the gears, then use the clutch.
     
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  4. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    I refrain from comment on these threads because its been so long since I learned that I just can't explain it now.

    I tried to examine my shifting the other night in the hope of being able to help others, but wound up screwing up all my shifts.

    They'll be some help along shortly . . .
     
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    SHOJim Road Train Member

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    Oh you're taking about transmissions, not transexuals.....oops
     
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  6. Mark Kling

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    Been a few years, but I always listened to the pitch of the engine and shifted when it reached a certain pitch. This comes from driving a clutch in a car. Double shifting was a little different, but still listen to the pitch of the engine... this only comes from practice..

    Floating gears is frowned upon by some companies and the engine computers do record this.

    If you miss a gear, don't get upset,,, take a deep breath and try again... learn the gear pattern.... most of the time you will have to be shifting from sound alone as you want to keep your eyes on the road...
     
  7. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    Gears are made of metal. You are not the first and I doubt you will be the last to grind a gear. The key to avoid damage is to never force the issue. Don't hear it grind and try to force it into gear. Relax, take a hit off the bong, and let the gear slip into place.

    Float away, just like in a nice hot eagle claw bathtub, with Calgone beads. Your skin soaking up the oil. The kids at grandma's. Candlelight flickering. Beethoven softy playing in the background......

    Are you shifting up..........keep your foot on the throttle until it reaches your shifting point.....RPM is climbing, slowly, slowly, wait for it, there 1500, SHIFT bring it to neutral and slowly let the RPMs drop to 1200, Shift. What are you waiting for get it in the next gear.........

    Newbies.
     
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  8. KAMA3

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    If you cannot float the gears, then use the clutch.[/QUOTE]
    I can gradually float gears up and down with no problems,but when it comes to sudden slow downs,like if you have to go from 13 to 7,I don't get to the right gear sometimes. Would clutch help at this point?
     
  9. KAMA3

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    Thank you,I understand what you're saying and I don't have issues with gradual up/downshifting,but when I have to slow down rapidly (like if for a sudden traffic on a highway),I have to go several gears lower at a time,that's where I have learn.
     
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    Haha,this is wrong forum for transexuals:biggrin_255:
     
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    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with using the clutch. If you have to downshift and skip multiple gears using the clutch is something I would encourage you to do. Floating the gears is simply a tool for you to use. It does not make you more of a man if you can float, nor should you consider yourself less of a trucker if you double clutch. In the future everyone will be using an automatic anyway.
     
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