I went to a company training program, and the company states that you go to 3 weeks of school and then with a trainer for 5-8 weeks and then get your license. I went through the 3 weeks and got my certificate and then went with a trainer. Now this winter we hit alot of bad weather we had to sit because of closed highways, so I didn't get alot of drive time. Then when I was in my 4th week, my trainer had a safety banquet and we were off for 4 days, so I lost time there too. When we went out on the road on Monday, the owner of the company asked how I was doing and was told good. Tuesday when he asked the trainer he said in 2 weeks I'd be ready, which would make me at 7 weeks. I was told that was too long and was let go. What I don't understand is they tell you 5-8 weeks and some trainer told me he had one out for 11 weeks, and then they let me go at 7 weeks. I did not do anything wrong just needed the extra time since we lost sometime. All in all, now they sent me a bill for they training school. I did not break the contract they did. I was taught by this company how to cheat on logs and drive after 3-4 hours of sleep. We didn't have alot of shutdown 10 or 11 breaks. So what I want to know is this legal? Am I really responsible for this loan? I told the owner that if I have to I will contact a lawyer, since I did not do wrong and was trained to do illegal things. Any suggestions?? Thanks
Company training contract
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BikerDon, Apr 18, 2008.
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Read over the contract, see if there are limits on time allowed. Or, at the very least let a lawyer look over it.
There's no need to mention the "cheating" part of it. That's irrelevant at this point. What you want to know is; Did they break their own contract?
At this point, you would do good to seek some form of legal help. Because what you have done, is damage any shot at other training avenues if your credit gets ruined over this.
That's why many of us say, pay for your own schooling. Get your own CDL, then choose the company you want to work for.
You went completely backwards. Got a job, got training, "didn't" get CDL.
Although you could rent a truck and take the test. You have NO supporting credentials showing you have been trained/schooled.Everett Thanks this. -
BikerDon
I agree (shock) with Danc694u..
Anybody who knows me, knows how much it hurts me to say it: Get a lawyer. Let him take a look at the contract and give him the specifics. Do NOT ... fabricate or soften things. It won't help him or you.
Many lawyers will give you a first interview (15 or 30 mins) free.
Since this is a contract dispute, look for a contract lawyer (as opposed to divorce, DUI, realestate, etc)
Present your contract and facts. If he thinks you have a leg to stand on, he'll tell you. At that point, it's your decision whether to go ahead or not.
I'm curious, though, on one thing.. after 5-8 weeks with a trainer on the road, you get your CDL. How does that work? is the company a certified 3rd party testing organization? (I doubt it, but I've heard of stranger things) If not, it's entirely possible you have enough experience to trot down to the DMV (or wherever) and get your license. (yes, you may have to rent a truck, and find a driver to accompany you, since I doubt you can drive a truck legally on a permit.. but that's not the point).
In any event, they certainly can't STOP you from getting a CDL. You just need to use somebody else's truck.
Also, just a shot in the dark - talk to local CDL schools. They MIGHT have an abreviated or refresher course you could take that would end with you taking your CDL test. (might not, but, hey, it's worth a try)
Worse comes to worst - you might consider just plain going to a CDL school from scratch. Reading between the lines, it sounds like this outfit was .. um.. to put it diplomatically... not the best source of information or training available. I think you might be well served to start over and be sure you have it right (before any bad habits become ingrained)
Just my 25 cents
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I'd do all that and then report them to the FMCSA.
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I didn write the owner of the company who let me go told him to caheck it all out and let me know he's decision, since I did not break the contract. I let him know I will proceed legally if I have to. They also told me on Tuesday that I was being let go and I was in the truck heading to Georgia, and couldn't drive anymore and first got me back on Thursday night. I was pretty mad by then. I have since then, within a month of being let go, started training at another company. I was accepted within 2 days and started in 2 weeks. This company is far different than the last. You get your license in 3 weeks and then go with a trainer for 20-23 days and I'll be on my own. The other company was out with trainer then get license. This companies training is far more better and alot more practicing time. Am more happier and more relaxed and confident of my driving than the lasts company. Waiting for answer, from the owner of the company, and then may have to pursue the lawyer thing, I will do what I have to to not let anyone else get in this situation. Thanks for your help.
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BikerDon, I'm wondering if I know u, this town's not that big. I'll get the bike out and meet u for coffee sometime.
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Hey Don, glad to here you've moved on from Millis. I didn't like what they did to you and others so I didn't go there in march. Who are you driving for know? I stayed local and work for ENVIPCO(EPR) recycling/redemption pick up. I met a Millis driver the other day. He was a nice guy and he love the job. I talked a little about what's been going on. He's been there for 2 yrs. O'well we both moved on and it should be for the best. Congrats on getting your CDL and Good Luck with your t
raining.
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Ok something's not right here. Has I understand this while out with your trainer you would only have a "permit" after 3 weeks of school. So the trainer "licensed driver" would then be required to be sitting in the passenger seat when ever you where driving.
3 weeks of school (Most get the lic here)
5-8 weeks of training
Solo status
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Dose it really matter how it's done there success rate is 40% survival and 60% TERMINATION OR FRUSTRATION
anymore it takes 3 trainers to train a newb's due to the LOW STANDARDS set my the BIG Company's I read a post that stated out of 30 students only 10 were left and they hadn't even done any driving yet 3 weeks I think or less
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Actually it can matter a lot depending on how they do their training. When a person only has a CDLA permit there must be a CDLA license driver age 25+ awake and alert sitting in the passenger chair. Now think about that 5 to 8 weeks sitting for 8 to 14 hours a day watching someone drive. I personally have a high tolerance for boredom but there's no way I could handle that for more then maybe 3 or 4 weeks tops.
But the real point is if the truck is running has a team and the trainer is in the sleeper if that truck get pulled in the truck will be shut down. And the trainer is going to get some major tickets if not jail time. Now lets say the trainer just dozed off and there an accident.. someones butt is now in a sling.
It just makes no sense financial or otherwise for a company to send out trainees with only permits.
Has for the high turn over rates. Well we all know that at lease 50% or more of the drivers that are presently out there right now.... Shouldnt be for one reason or another.
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