1. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    Not where I was going, but nonetheless a very valid point.

    ...can anyone answer me this? Why are we expected to get better and have less crashes? Is it the laws, the fact that we are professionals, we have more training, what?

    Now we toss 4-wheelers into the mix. Who taught them? Anyone at all? Or did they learn it from the state drivers book or the last grand theft auto game? Sure, they are held accountable for their actions, but the expectation to improve isn't there. Instead, we rely upon sensors that fail or don't work to begin with. What happens when 4-wheelers seriously rely upon that tech and it breaks mid-trip?

    ...new tech isn't the answer. It's akin to trying to cure cancer using a bandaid and some gauze. If you want to cure a bad knee, you don't just treat the pain.
     
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  3. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    They say it's starting in Europe, with plans to take it world wide.

    And safety or not, I don't want a computer taking over my control of the vehicle I am suppose to be driving. I worked for Crete when they installed the OnGuard system. When it worked right, it was tolerable...when it didn't it was dangerous. Ever have a vehicle panic stop for no reason. Most of the drivers there have bad the ghost truck pull out in front of them causing the truck to brake check for no reason. Or have it panic stop because you hit a bump right before an overpass with steel beams...the problem with this kind of technology is systems and sensors fail. I am leaning more and more toward the idea that the Amish were right all along.

    And this is a statement from my 'Dodge loving' son-in-law. The folks in Detroit have finally figured out what is wrong with every Ford...and the put a big oval shaped circle around it...:biggrin_2559:
     
  4. cnsper

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    Yep... Kick it up to 70 passing a car... suddenly your car sees a speed limit sign... Screeeetch.. Dang! now I have to pass him again... LOL
     
  5. truckon

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    Very interesting and valid points. But isn't everything run by sensors as it is? I.e throttle, speed, transmission etc?
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Sure, drive-by-wire for the throttle, but the brakes, steering, etc. are all mechanical. Remember the "runaway" toyotas a few years ago? Throttle got hung up wide open. Couldn't put it in neutral, because there wasn't a mechanical linkage and the electronic sensors wouldn't allow it. Couldn't shut the engine off because there was no mechanical switch...electronic push button...and the sensors wouldn't allow it. Not the kind of vehicle I care to operate. I like having a transmission I can knock out of gear, a key I can switch off, and a clutch I can push in. I've had people tell me I need to get with the times...that this technology makes life SO much better...but from where I'm sitting, it leaves far too much to chance. I like throttle cables, manual transmissions, and mechanical linkages operating the controls. Mechanical linkages can be inspected for wear, maintained, lubricated, etc. to get reliable service from the components...and they offer feedback allowing you to "feel" what's going on. Fly-by-wire, you can't always "see" corroded wires, sensors that are on their last leg, or potential problems. The only "feedback" they offer is from the artificial return spring on the control that you're operating, which only under ideal circumstances even comes close to mimicking what it SHOULD feel like. In any case, I'm just fine without it. My most recent addition to the personal fleet is a 1990 model year. My "newest" personal vehicle is almost old enough to drink.
     
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  7. Dye Guardian

    Dye Guardian Road Train Member

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    I didn't know about that part... That's brutal... Stand on the brakes and hope for the best??
     
  8. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    ...beat me to the punch.
     
  9. brsims

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    Get a manual transmission! Then, if your hyped-up super duper computer controlled car decides to run away with you, ya can still hit the clutch and slap that bugger into neutral!
     
  10. mandalorekiller

    mandalorekiller Light Load Member

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    Dont forget about mercedes making a self driving truck
     
  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    everybody has a self driving truck.

    i just saw a FL this past week.
     
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