Super Singles safe practices?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Outdoorsman, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. Outdoorsman

    Outdoorsman Light Load Member

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    I've only been driving for a year. I've only been driving with Super Singles for a few months... during relatively dry weather conditions. Last week I got my first wakeup call, when I was driving on wet roads and the tractor started to 'kick out' from under me - because I had left my engine brake on. Normally, during dry conditions the engine brake doesn't even seem to do anything... but when the road got wet - and I took my foot off of the throttle, with an empty trailer - I could feel the drives break away from the road and slip. Lesson learned - in wet weather, turn off the engine brake.

    I typically drive with cruise control at highway speeds. Although I know you are not supposed to use cruise control on wet / snow covered / especially icy roads - I never had a problem with duals, running with cruise control and wet roads. Yesterday I learned another lesson - that could have easily been a disaster - and scared the living &*(% out of me in the process.

    It was raining - not heavy, just a steady rain - kind of an on / off mist - that wasn't creating any standing water. It was dark out - with little to no traffic around me - around 5:30 am - when I hit a bump / hump in the road, with cruise control at about 65 mph. The tractor raised up as it went over the hump and took pressure off of the drives... and as soon as it came down - went into a slide to the left. I immediately hit the clutch to release the cruise control, never touching the brakes, and had to perform several counter steer maneuvers to gain control. I could feel the trailer pushing the truck, while the drives slid on the surface of the road. When I finally got things straightened out, I had gone from the slow lane into the passing lane - and really glad nobody was anywhere near me!

    Lesson learned - and lucky to be alive, and that things didn't go sideways (literally) to make it worse. I could have ended up in the ditch, the truck could have jack-knifed, another car / truck could have been next to me. So, from now on... no cruise control / engine brake during wet conditions.

    I've read that when you're empty / carrying a lighter load, on wet roads - it's best to keep the speed at or below 55 mph, to be safe... which sucks... but if that's what it's going to take to keep that from happening again - so be it.

    What really worries me now, is the upcoming winter. If this happens when the road is only 'wet' - what happens when it's snow covered - let alone iced up!? The tread depths are still well within DOT legal specs - so changing tires / treads isn't an option.

    Anyone out there have similar stories / experiences to share - or suggestions about how to prevent / react to / keep safe with these tires? Please don't tell me to go to another company or buy my own truck...
     
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  3. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    You must have worn tires..?

    Best practice with wide base tires is to rotate back to the trailer once drives hit around 40% tread.

    Low tread depth and wide tires results in hydroplane very easy. It will also be lower traction in snow with and low tread depth tire.
     
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  4. Wooly Rhino

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    Also remember that a misting rain fall is sometimes the slickest of conditions. That is when the oil is release to the surface but is not washed away.

    Any lesson learned is a good lesson. Thanks for sharing.
     
  5. realdesertkickin

    realdesertkickin Heavy Load Member

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    They scare me...Im pulling 80k, super singes all the way around, whats gonna happen when one blows on my trailer?

    Im thinking i am effed!! Its gonna make the other one pop and that loaded trailer is gonna pull the tractor over and im toast...

    Hope im wrong....Im just now looking into it, lol
     
  6. MrEd

    MrEd Road Train Member

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    I have been using super single tires for years, on several different model trucks. I have not ever had them on trailers. While I do not care for them for several reasons, I haven't noticed any increased risk of hydroplaning. Ran today in rain in WV without any issue. It is a well known fact that you should not use an engine retarder any time traction may be questionable. That means driving slower. Any truck with any tires can and will hydroplane in the right conditions. I'm not pointing any fingers your way, or making accusations, but too many guys drive "on the edge of the envelope", so to speak, and then wonder why things don't go as planned.
     
  7. Outdoorsman

    Outdoorsman Light Load Member

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    Well, the tread is worn... but as I said, still well within DOT legal specs. Our company doesn't use Singles on the trailers, just the trucks - so no way to rotate them back. I was told that the tires won't be changed / replaced unless or until they are close to being illegal, by the garage. I might be able to raise the issue with Safety, and see what happens? Hopefully by changing some of the ways I drive is enough, for now?!
     
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  8. HorseShoe

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    I'd rather have two than one
     
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  9. joesmoothdog

    joesmoothdog Heavy Load Member

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    Cruise control ? Really? Drive the truck and trailer. Are you one of the megapros what wears shower shoes?
     
  10. Outdoorsman

    Outdoorsman Light Load Member

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    Yeah, true - but I think it had been raining for awhile, off and on steadily... so it's hard to say if that was part of the problem? I think cruise control and loss of solid contact with the road, caused the tires to lose traction, and essentially hydroplane. In dry conditions, the tires have low resistence, but in wet conditions that means low traction too.
     
  11. joesmoothdog

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